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Shriketits

To: Frank O'Connor <>, "" <>
Subject: Shriketits
From: John Graff <>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 00:23:59 +0000
I'm always interested in discussions on playback response, especially in 
regards to  identification of an individual bird or as evidence for/against 
conspecificity, as I don't know how useful it is. I've tested it a few times on 
different species and often have species responding strongly to other species' 
calls - for example both Variegated and Splendid Fairy-wrens at Herdsman Lake 
have responded equally strongly to playback for either species when I've tried. 
Similarly, Rufous-crowned Emu-wrens regularly respond strongly to Southern 
Emu-wren calls. I've even had Fan-tailed Cuckoo come in to Horsfield's 
Bronze-Cuckoo call just north of Perth, though haven't tried to repeat that. 
Owls are also notorious for reacting strongly to calls of other owl species.

J.

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Subject: Shriketits


Interesting. I have tried the Eastern call at Dryandra and at the
Porongurup NP in the past without success (from the BOCA tapes), but
they have come in to David Stewart's call of the Western. Similarly
at Collins Road SE of Perth. I have had a number of times when they
would not respond to the Western call also. I can't remember ever
having success trying the Eastern call, although I admit I didn't try
it that often and then I found the Western call worked (sometimes).

At 02:42 PM 13/09/2016, Kev Lobotomi wrote:
>Actually Frank
>
>I tried this in SW WA at the Stirling Lodge, because I didn't have a
>call from the SW bird, I played back an Eastern ST call. The
>Shriketit came straight in to the call!-Kevin Bartram
>
> > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:34:37 +0800
> > To: 
> > From: 
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Shriketits
> >
> >
> > Peter Lansley mentioned whether the shriketits should be split.
> >
> > I have no doubt about it. If you play the call of an Eastern
> > Shriketit to a Western Shriketit it takes no notice.
> >
> > I spoke to Leo Joseph quite a few years ago. He thought it was likely
> > they were different, but he doubted whether anyone would do the work
> > due to the lack of available DNA for Northern Shriketit. George Swann
> > can find them in the Kimberley over quite a wide area, but otherwise
> > they can be difficult to track down as they rarely call.
> >
> > I once had a Western Shriketit imitating a Western Yellow Robin at
> > Dryandra. Do the Eastern or Northern mimic?
> >
> >
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