Just to add my tuppence-worth, there are people in Australia currently
involved in bird 'voice - recognition' (Jessie Capadonna at QUT, for one)
but I won't try and explain how or what she is doing, (I'd better leave
that to her ;))
Currently I'm working with Vision Australia to see if I can encourage their
members to get involved with research into "Birding by Ear", it's a slow -
starter but I would love to hear if there is any interest in the B-A
community,
I want to start doing 'Bird-Walks' using hearing and if anyone wants to
lend a hand, I would be very grateful.
Please contact me on the above email.
Regards,
Tom
On 25/07/2016 10:43 AM, "Paul Dodd" <> wrote:
> There have been apps for a long time that are able to identify songs by
> "listening" and analysing so the technology well and truly exists. The
> issues are around data (recordings). With songs there is no shortage of
> versions of the song that can be compared against, and there is no shortage
> of duration of music - if you've ever used "Shazam" you will know that some
> songs are identified almost immediately, whereas some songs take a
> considerable amount of time (up to about a minute) before the app can
> identify it. Obviously background noise can make this more difficult. The
> significant problem with bird calls is the lack of recordings available to
> be used for call matching. I am assuming that the developers of the app
> have
> not been travelling from country to country with recording gear (otherwise
> the app would cost ever so slightly more than $5.99), so they must be using
> public domain or royalty-free licenced recordings - presumably sourced from
> xeno-canto or similar. Whilst there is probably no shortage of calls
> available for the more common species, the less common ones will have very
> few calls publically available.
>
> As Neil says, provision of feedback to the app developers and, presumably,
> the making available of calls for comparison purposes, would greatly
> benefit
> the enhancement of the app.
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
> Of
> Sandra & Neil Shelley
> Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:37 AM
> To: Peter Shute <>
> Cc: birding-aus <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Birdsong app
>
> It claims to identify 25 species, but it looks like there are about 125 in
> the app, so perhaps they have added some more recently.
>
> Automatic recognition is undergoing ongoing refinement, so I think it is
> worth experimenting with and providing feedback so that they can improve
> it.
>
> As others have noted, the interface could be simplified, but that is not a
> major concern at the moment.
>
> On 22 July 2016 at 18:08, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>
> > How many species does it claim to identify, Neil?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 22 Jul 2016, at 5:23 PM, Sandra & Neil Shelley
> > < <>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > There is an Australian version of the Bird Song Id app (
> > https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/bird-song-id-australia-automatic/id107
> > 9325343?mt=8) and it costs AU$5.99 - quite reasonably priced in my
> > opinion - can't comment on the functionality of it as I haven't tried
> > it the field yet!
> >
> > Neil Shelley
> >
> > On 22 July 2016 at 16:10, Dave Torr <<mailto:
> > >> wrote:
> > I would assume that the actual development would not be huge. If
> > designed well the main issue as Peter says would be to include a set
> > of Aussie calls instead of the existing set. As I haven't looked at
> > the app not sure if there would need to be many other changes?
> > On 22 Jul 2016 9:58 a.m., "Peter Shute" <<mailto:
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > > Surely the most efficient way to make that kind of app available is
> > > to persuade the authors of warblr, etc, to produce an Australian
> > > version by offering funding and probably more importantly, sample
> recordings.
> > >
> > > That said, do you have access to a collection of recordings, S.
> Mitchell?
> > > Just listening to them helps one learn much faster than learning in
> > > the field.
> > >
> > > Peter Shute
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 22 Jul 2016, at 1:20 AM, Carl Clifford <
> > <>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great idea, but who is going stump up the money for it. Perhaps it
> > could
> > > be
> > > > croud sourced?
> > > >
> > > >> On Thursday, July 21, 2016, mitch Mitchell
> > > >> <
> > <>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello, there is no reason that Australia could not have a
> > > >> Birdsong
> > app.
> > > >> There are already two for the British Birds, so may be someone
> > > >> could instigate an app for Australia?
> > > >> As some one with a poor memory and little knowledge of Birds
> > > >> here, I would certainly get it
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/bird-song-id-automatic-recognition/id6
> > 01362210?mt=8
> > > >> https://warblr.net
> > > >> http://www.chirpomatic.com/
> > > >> I hope that helps your members, and that they can help get an app
> > made!
> > > >> Best Regards
> > > >> S. Mitchell
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