Mexico field guide

To: David Adams <>
Subject: Mexico field guide
From: Eric Jeffrey via Birding-Aus <>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:10:50 +0000
I would second all of this as to which I have knowledge. Howell & Webb remains 
by far the best field guide for the area, but it is massive and has quirks.

Second, you will want a guide for "North American" birds, even though Mexico is 
geographically within North America. The two preferred guides are Sibley and 
National Geographic. Either should do for your purpose.

I believe there is also a site-finding guide by Howell, but that may just be a 
figment of my aging gray matter.

It obviously does pay to do advance study, especially of types not found in 
Australia, such as hummingbirds.

Eric Jeffrey
Falls Church, VA

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> On Jun 7, 2016, at 3:52 PM, David Adams <> wrote:
> I may be a bit out of date, but below are some thoughts and links for
> Mexico. First off, it's an amazing country for birds and more and wildly
> diverse. Birds, habitats, landscapes, languages, cultural details and food
> all change a great deal around the country. I haven't looked, but I
> wouldn't be surprised to see that the birds of the Baja states are as
> different to the birds of the Maya states as those of Australia are to
> those of Bali. So, what you see will depend very much on where you go. (I'm
> not sure where in Western Mexico you're going and I've only been to the
> Baja states which have pretty abbreviated - if interesting - bird lists.)
> When matters too for Mexico since migration is such an enormous factor in
> Central and North America. If you're going to Jalisco, I'm jealous! Send a
> trip report.
> As you probably already know, a good place to look for info on foreign
> places is the trip report catalog at CloudBirders:
> If you don't speak Spanish, English is okay in a lot of places -
> particularly where there are tourists. If you speak Spanish badly, it's
> better than you might think. In Maya areas, plenty of locals use Spanish as
> a second language which makes it *much* easier to communicate than with
> first-language speakers. (Not that you'll be around Maya in Western Mexico.)
> Great book: "A Guide to the Birds of Mexico and Northern Central America".
> It was an instant classic that filled a huge hole and I don't believe
> anything else has overtaken it. A few caveats about this book:
> * It's massive, just massive.
> * It leaves out coverage of most North American species. For birds, North
> America is often treated as anywhere north of the Rio Grande and the
> Neotropics are everything to the south. Translation: You need a North
> American field guide. (If I remember right, the initial audience for this
> book was US and Canadian birders and as a means of promoting and expanding
> birding in Mexico.) Given that Mexico is on the narrow part of the
> migration funnel, it makes sense to have an all-region guide like Sibley
> rather than Sibley East and West. Sibley is also huge...
> * Unless I'm mistaken (I'm away from home and my copy of Webb), the book
> uses the old-fashioned format of color plates in the middle, species
> descriptions keyed by species numbers and range maps in the back.
> * I tried an Edwards guide but it felt like all of the birds were
> illustrated with round heads.
> * I'm not a fan of the Peterson's guides and don't remember loving the
> Mexico on.
> * I'd take paper guides, even if there are apps like Sibley, unless you're
> already really comfortable with the birds and families of the region. I
> find it really, really, really hard to get to grips with new families using
> apps.
> I'm not sure how far north you're going, but the border regions with the
> USA sound just horrific now, sadly. Drugs flow north and guns flow south.
> As far as other resources go, I don't believe that there is any app for
> Mexico. However, the Sibley App for North America is excellent and so is
> iBird.
> Cornell University has the biggest/most active Neotropical bird research
> program on earth, going back many decades. Their sound libraries, etc. are
> impressive. Their Web site also gets better all of the time:
> Cornell is the group behind eBird, for those that don't know
> Cornell has also done an amazing site on the Birds of Paradise:
> ...and they're the mob responsible for the sound collections in some
> commercial bird apps and their free app Merlin:
> If you aren't familiar with the region, it's *well* worth studying the
> birds as much as you can in advance. Using rough numbers, here's how the
> native species of birds in Australia and Mexico compare:
>  Australia  Mexico  Shared
> Species  770 1045  45
> Genera  336  464  93
> Families      96 93  42
> Australia is about four times larger than Mexico which makes Mexico's
> numbers even more impressive. Finding such huge differences between
> Australia and Mexico isn't that big a shock since Australia is arguably the
> most taxonomically divergent place on earth for birds. Still, the number of
> shared species is really low and so is the number of families. (To be fair,
> the New World has a high degree of families that aren't found elsewhere, or
> at least not found in numbers.)
> About six months ago I started spending time with a data visualization
> library I really like and have been doing various experiments. One of these
> has been a system to compare two different areas based on species lists and
> a shared taxonomy. I've posted a fragment comparing Australia and Mexico.
> Scroll to the bottom of the page to see a list of all of the families that
> occur in either region. From there you can see how many species from each
> family are in Australia, shared, and in Mexico. Hover for counts, click for
> species names. Pay particular attention to the families that are well
> represented in Mexico that are missing from (or scarce) in Australia.
> Woodpeckers (and all of their wonderful cousins), Antbirds, Hummingbirds,
> Tyrant Flycatchers, Trogons, and so on. This page is part of a bunch of
> on-going sketches, so forgive any glitches. For example, the 'world
> distribution map' link you may see at the bottom of the page won't lead to
> a page.
> Have a fantastic trip!
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