I think the biggest downfall for Facebook is that there are no trip reports
anymore. Birding Aus was/is a great resource for info on past bird sightings as
per trips. In years to come 'new' birders won't have up to date detailed info.
Steve Roderick.
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:33:24 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] The decline of BA
>
> Sorry - I am referring to birding-aus not Birdlife Australia.
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>
> > I assume you mean birding-aus, not Birds Australia or Birdlife Australia.
> >
> > I've found that it is possible to search the Facebook Groups from within
> > Facebook itself, but I don't think Google will return any results - can
> > anyone confirm that? The problem is that you first need to know which
> > Facebook group to search, and there are dozens of them now dedicated to
> > Australian birding, and probably many I don't know about.
> >
> > So fragmentation is one problem too. As to whether the postings will even
> > be there when you look, people can delete their own postings, along with
> > all the replies, as can group owners, so maybe or maybe not.
> >
> > There's no doubt there are less messages here now since a year or two ago,
> > but it appears to have stabilised at this lower level of usage, rather than
> > be in terminal decline. Time will tell. One benefit of the drift to
> > Facebook has been that many of the discussions that were considered
> > off-topic or controversial have drifted there too. Discussions here have
> > degenerated into arguments a lot less recently as a result, which may
> > result in people remaining subscribers.
> >
> > It's probably possible to set up archives of the Facebook group
> > discussions. You could direct Facebook's emailed notifications to an
> > archive similar to birding-aus's, but when I suggested this a while ago,
> > other Facebook users reacted in horror at the possibility of their
> > conversations being archived. It seems the ability to delete postings is a
> > major attraction there.
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 4 Jan 2016, at 12:20 PM, Bill Stent <> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree, Steve.
> > >
> > > The various Facebook pages are great for showing off photos (I'm a
> > > show-off, I admit) but searching on them for past information is just
> > > impossible.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Steve Clark <>
> > wrote:
> > >> G'day all
> > >>
> > >> I mourn the decline of BA - having been a member since 1995 or so.
> > >> Yesterday I was asked for information from a chap writing an article for
> > >> Australian Field Ornithology. He did an online search and found an
> > item on
> > >> BA of mine from 2001 that supported his article.
> > >>
> > >> Today I would be more likely to report an observation of interest on
> > one of
> > >> the Facebook birding groups. Will a Facebook post from 2016 be able to
> > be
> > >> found in 2030?
> > >>
> > >> I would urge birders to continue to post actively on BA (as well as on
> > the
> > >> Facebook groups).
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Steve Clark
> > >> Hamilton, Vic
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