Hi,
Around Ingham very rarely see Black-shouldered. When one does appear it's
usually alone and keeps away from 'resident' birds.
Cheers,
Tony Ashton
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:58 AM, martin cachard <>
wrote:
> Hi Kurtis,
>
> I can say that up around the Cairns area, we see Masked as the norm by far
> the great majority of the time.
>
> I also see intermediate individuals here too, but far less commonly - they
> vary from almost pure-looking and large Black-shouldered (rarely), to
> seeing individuals looking much more like but still aren't pure Masked
> (less rarely, but still not common). These Masked-looking birds here
> display varying degrees of Black-shouldered traits, such as overall body
> size & leg length, wattle shape & size, black patches on 'shoulder', and
> black down along nape.
>
> During many trips by myself to the Lake Eyre basin in recent times, I
> would say that pretty much all the lapwings seen there are are at both
> extremes, and everything else in between as well !!
>
> What does this mean, I wonder??
>
> Cheers for now,
>
> Martin Cachard,
> Trinity Beach, Cairns.
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:11:37 +1000
> > From:
> > To:
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Black-shouldered Lapwing vs. Masked Lapwing
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Dare I bring up the recent splitting of the former Spur-winged Plover
> > former Spur-winged Lapwing former Masked Lapwing from the current Masked
> > Lapwing to re-create the former* Vanellus novaehollandiae* now known as
> the
> > 'Black-shouldered Lapwing'.
> >
> > Confused?
> >
> > Open up an old copy of Çayley's 'What Bird is That?' or even an early
> > Pizzey and Knight and you will see that *Vanellus miles* has been split
> for
> > longer than it has been lumped.
> >
> > Up until this most recent taxonomic split, authors including Boles and
> > Christidis 1995 and 2008 had lumped both 'species' into Vanellus miles.
> > They were split only as subspecies with *V.m.novaehollandiae* (Masked
> > Lapwing aka Spur-winged Lapwing aka Black-shouldered Lapwing) and
> *V.m.miles
> > *(nominated race - Masked Lapwing).
> >
> > See info on the recent 'Handbook of Birds of the World' (link below)
> >
> >
> http://www.hbw.com/species/black-shouldered-lapwing-vanellus-novaehollandiae
> >
> > http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/species/factsheet/22725241
> >
> > WA Birding Blog (
> >
> http://wabirdingblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/the-curious-case-of-red-bellied-spinipig.html
> )
> > writes:
> >
> > " These forms also hybridise to produce intermediate-looking offspring,
> > particularly around the Lake Eyre region. But given the large area of
> > potential contact, hybridisation is surprisingly limited, and is probably
> > partly due to recent expansion from our human love of grass. Some past
> > discussions on birding-aus [9] suggest that hybridisation in the supposed
> > contact zone in southern Queensland is limited, and in other areas may
> have
> > been exaggerated by intentional oversampling of hybrids. So this may well
> > be a good species deserving of further study, subject to genetic
> assessment
> > of gene flow."
> >
> > So I kick off the discussion with the question. Where have you seen
> > hybris/intermediate or sympatric Masked and Black-shouldered Lapwing?
> >
> > I have seen them on a property called "Degulla" north of Alpha and West
> of
> > Clermont in the Desert Uplands of Central Queensland. One bird in
> > particular was a typical 'Black-shouldered Lapwing' one was a typical
> > 'Masked lawping' while all the others were inter-grades of the two.
> >
> > Here is a photo of a similar 'inter-grade flock' taken at Barcaldine
> > Queensland.
> >
> > http://www.bonzle.com/c/a?a=pic&fn=svz0f4td&s=3
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kurtis Lindsay
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