Mike,
I think you need a fair supply of salt when using data from sites like eBird,
etc. not the fault of the lists, just the GIGO law at work.
Carl
> On 22 May 2015, at 12:15 pm, Michael Tarburton <>
> wrote:
>
> G'day Tickers & bird watchers
>
> Carl, what makes your observation worse is that when each of the persons on
> the tour then go and send those identical lists to eBird. I get very
> frustrated trying to gather swift data from eBird, where I have had up to 8
> identical lists for the same place on the same day. Sometimes they admit
> there were others with them sometimes they do not.
>
> Happy birding
>
>
> Mike
>
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> Michael Tarburton
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>> On 11/05/2015, at 3:51 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
>>
>> I think that occurs on quite a few group tours, with the leaders collecting
>> the individual sightings for their records, and some of the group just using
>> the "master" list as their own sightings. Guess it is a matter of conscience.
>>
>> Carl Clifford
>>
>>
>>> On 11 May 2015, at 1:31 pm, Denise Goodfellow <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip. As the guide
>>> reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked them off his list,
>>> without looking up!
>>>
>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>> PO Box 71
>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>> 043 8650 835
>>>
>>> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
>>>
>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International Ecotourism Award,
>>> 2004.
>>>
>>> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent
>>> becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
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>>>> On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see the bird
>>>> but wasn't able to identify it, and was just making sure Tim was certain
>>>> of the id.
>>>>
>>>> My OBP tick wouldn't be a tick if there hadn't been an expert there to
>>>> tell me it wasn't a Blue-wing. Normally I'd want to id it myself, but I
>>>> figure there aren't going to be many chances to try again, and it's not
>>>> that much different to taking a photo and asking an expert later.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Shute
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Birding-Aus
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>>>>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 10:45 AM
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>>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling
>>>>> me about a client who asked him (Tim) "Did you see that well
>>>>> enough for me to tick it?"
>>>>> David Robertson
>>>>> Adelaide
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