To: "" <>
Subject: Ticks
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:47:53 +1000
Well if in the story Denise refers to it was a summary given at the end of
the day, it saves writing and avoids forgetting things....... I don't see
any problem with that. Mostly on a boat trip everyone sees all the species.
Maybe he was simply interested to know what was observed in total on the
trip, which is after all, more important than his own list. He could later
if it mattered to him, when at home edit the list to delete those not seen
by him. If he did not look up during the trip, well yes that seems a bit
odd, as in a waste of money. Maybe he was seasick.

I was going to write the same as what Peter did. It is pretty obvious and
routine....... The reason for going out with someone more knowledgeable is
to find and confirm the ones you would not find or identify yourself. So of
course you would rely on the advice as posed in the question. I wish I had
someone as a local guide when I was in the Philippines......


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Denise Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 1:32 PM
To: Peter Shute
Cc: birding-aus; David Robertson
Subject: Ticks

Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip.  As the guide
reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked them off his list,
without looking up!

Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
PO Box 71
Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
043 8650 835

PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.

Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast?s International  Ecotourism Award,

With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent
becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.

On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> That's not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see the bird
but wasn't able to identify it, and was just making sure Tim was certain of
the id. 
> My OBP tick wouldn't be a tick if there hadn't been an expert there to
tell me it wasn't a Blue-wing. Normally I'd want to id it myself, but I
figure there aren't going to be many chances to try again, and it's not that
much different to taking a photo and asking an expert later.
> Peter Shute
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus 
>>  On Behalf Of 
>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 10:45 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks
>> I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling 
>> me about a client who asked him (Tim) "Did you see that well 
>> enough for me to tick it?"
>> David Robertson
>> Adelaide

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