To: "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Advertising
From: "Judy Leitch" <>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 12:10:25 +1000
Hi everyone,

I'm not sure as to whether this constitutes 'advertising' - however here

Birds Queensland, in conjunction with Birdlife Southern Queensland (Gold
Coast branch) will soon be launching our new
"Bird Places of the Gold Coast' brochure. This brochure will be freely
available and on the relevant websites.

Other contributing organisations have been SEQ Catchments, GCCC, Friends of
Federation Walk and Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary.

Birds Queensland already has a 'Bird Places of Brisbane' brochure on our

'Places to see birds in Queensland' can be found on this page:-

I'm sure other organisations Australia-wide have similar brochures and links
on their web pages.

I will keep the list informed when our new Gold Coast brochure is finally


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Denise Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:02 AM
To: Frank O'Connor
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Advertising

Hi Frank

Apologies for the delay in commenting.

I agree with you.  If I wanted to bird elsewhere or (in the past as I?ve
largely retired) had clients who wished to bird elsewhere I?d contact the
guides/birders of that area.  I?m not an authority on birds elsewhere in
Australia - asking local experts, whether they?re formal guides or not,
makes good sense.  

And your point about ephemeral lakes and birds turning up unexpectedly is a
good one.  And that brings me to another reason for  dealing with the locals
- the rate of habitat change that appears to be occurring in many places.
For example here in the Top End, development, inappropriate fire regimes,
and transformer weeds have destroyed habitat, and therefore many traditional
birding spots have either disappeared or been degraded.   Others are now
virtually out-of-bounds, for example Leanyer Sewage Ponds.

Both these reasons are why, when asked by Stephen Shunk, a birding
acquaintance in the US, to supply information on good birding areas, I went
straight to Birding Aus.    Here is part of his email.

"I am the new assistant editor at Nature Travel Network, and we are
preparing a major launch of a brand new site design very soon. We need
someone to write us a 250-word summary of birding in Australia, plus a short
list of key bird species (or families?!) and 3-5 birding hotspots or

I realize Australia is a big place, but we just need this most basic info to
get started. Eventually, we could have a page for each of the key birding
regions, but for now, the overall summary is most important".  

I don?t wish to write up birds in other areas of Australia - I?m not the
expert as i?ve already stated.   So thanks to those  few Birding Aussers who
have already sent me information.  But I would like a lot more.  I can send
Stephen?s draft overview as a guide for anyone interested.



Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
PO Box 71
Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
043 8650 835

PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.

Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast?s International  Ecotourism Award,

With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent
becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.

On 16 May 2015, at 8:18 pm, Frank O'Connor <> wrote:

> A tricky subject where it certainly has the potential to go too far, but
this point is difficult to specify.  I think that birding-aus people will
let them know if they go too far, and I think that Russell monitors this
very well.
> From a personal point of view, I have been happy to read about forthcoming
tours to Ashmore Reef, Torres Strait Islands, etc.  These tend to be either
one off tours, or they are tours that while they are commercial don't make
the operator a profit (my understanding is that George Swann basically gets
a free trip to Ashmore).  And I am certainly happy to read the trip reports
after the tours, while people could argue that this is a back door way of
> The pelagic trips are advertised, but I don't think anyone could argue
with that?  Someone is making money on the trip, but generally the trips are
run at cost and are of interest to many members of birding-aus.
> I think the guys in Alice Springs have shown suitable restraint by
reporting sightings they have seen.  I wouldn't have known there were
commercial operators in Alice.  I might not make use of them, but if
overseas people contact me then I am happy to let them know that there is
someone with excellent local knowledge who can show them around.
> Similarly I have been happy in the past with reports by Denise Goodfellow
for the NT, or Kingfisher Park in Far North Queensland, or tours to Cocos
and Christmas Islands, etc.
> I know that I would be interested if someone was organising a tour to say
Neale Junction in WA to look for Scarlet-chested Parrot, Striated (Sandhill)
Grasswren, etc.  Or maybe a tour to NSW or Qld  to look for Striated (Rusty)
> At BirdLife Western Australia we face some dilemmas with our eNews.  We
include reports of a lake being full this year, which is useful for people
thinking of visiting that area, but it is clear that this benefits the
station as people will be paying to stay there.  Or reports of Ground
Cuckoo-shrike will benefit the person whose property they are on, as people
will probably need to stay there.
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