French Island Report – Indian Peafowl

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Subject: French Island Report – Indian Peafowl
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:26:30 +1000
Well done to James to research and provide the information. If all people had 
considered it "not tickable" and considered that was an important criterion for 
keeping records until a certain period of time (or generations), then if 
adhered to, presumably there will be no records of it until after that time. 
Thus we probably would not have a start date from which to measure. This would 
be from "tickers" deciding not to keep records due to some weird logic of "non 
tickability". Logically that could infinitely extend a non-decision. The 
information James sent has indicated that fortunately not everyone goes by such 
arbitrary thoughts. I go by: if something is there it is there, if not it is 
not and records should reflect that. If something is introduced to a place and 
does not survive long term then it was still there. Nonsense about "not 
tickable" removes information. Beyond that, I wonder are Indian Peafowl any 
more interesting on French Island than anywhere else, to want to go there for 
them, compared to other reasons to go there or other easier places to see them 
and why care what "tickable" rules anyone else uses. If the species has 
ecological impacts, surely that is the aspect of far greater importance than 
whether its existence goes on personal tick lists.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
John Tongue
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2014 8:56 AM
To: Dave Torr
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] French Island Report – Indian Peafowl

I can't recall what the figures are, now, but I'm sure I've heard it as "So 
many years, OR so many generations"

Either way, come to Tassie.  We've got tick-able Peafowl…. ;)

John Tongue
Devonport, Tas.

On 20/09/2014, at 8:16 AM, Dave Torr <> wrote:

> Interesting report James. I have seen a "10 year period" mentioned 
> before when considering whether or not birds are "tickable" and I 
> wonder what the basis for this is - for some small birds this could 
> represent 10 generations I guess, whereas for an Ostrich it might be 
> barely 3 generations. I would personally have thought that 3 
> generations is a reasonable proof of being wild, but this means the 
> criteria would change according to species?
> ​<>
>> Fueled by that piece of information I shot off a couple of emails to 
>> other Victorian birders who shared the common belief that it is 
>> actually quite probable, but further proof of the ten year wild 
>> status and self-sustainment policy was required.

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