Does feeding them make them less likely to attack humans? I would have thought
it would tech them to associate them with food.
Peter Shute
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> On 19 Aug 2014, at 11:19 pm, "Allan Richardson via Birding-Aus"
> <> wrote:
>
> Shame the years of feeding haven't changed the way of the crocodiles like the
> one in the video below.
>
> The news said the crocodile that took the man had been fed for many years.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlz6iNw0Qes
>
> Allan
>
>> On 19/08/2014, at 6:42 PM, Denise Goodfellow via Birding-Aus wrote:
>>
>> I often saw fishermen and their spouses sitting on the bank where this man
>> was taken. They usually identified themselves as Vietnamese. Although I
>> always warned them about crocodiles I never saw them change their behaviour.
>>
>>
>> Denise
>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>> PO Box 71
>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>
>> PhD candidate
>>
>>
>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory
>> 043 8650 835
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 19 Aug 2014, at 5:03 pm, martin cachard <> wrote:
>>>
>>> I must say I've spent many mornings sitting very watchfully & cautiously
>>> under the mangroves (on the north side of the bridge over the Adelaide
>>> River on the hwy on the eastern bank a few metres back from the water). I
>>> was always amazed at the size of some of the crocs floating along the
>>> river, especially heading upstream under the bridge with what I believe
>>> must have been the in-coming tide - some were huge!! in one hour one
>>> morning I counted 25 crocs sailing past all heading up-river & most were 15
>>> ft long minimum!!!
>>> certainly a great spot for Mangrove Golden Whistlers & Arafura Fantails,
>>> but I have to concur with Denise, please be very careful if u ever go
>>> there!!
>>>
>>> even more astonishing for me was the size & abundance of the crocs at Shady
>>> Camp on the lower Mary River - what a spot!! there were at least 5 or 6 big
>>> monster crocs hanging there that must have been 20ft or longer - one
>>> individual was the biggest male I've ever seen, & I've seen a LOT of
>>> crocs!! this guy was a minimum 25ft, no kidding!!
>>> what was most alarming about this spot was the teenage boys & their fathers
>>> actually fishing from the banks at dusk standing within ONE metre of the
>>> shoreline right where the crocs were - i'm not kidding, it was
>>> gob-smackingly dumb!! I told them about the crocs I had seen there that
>>> day, & they just dismissed it with a chorus of "yeah mate, she'll be right
>>> mate, thanx!!" then all had a swig...
>>> honestly, some people....!!
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> martin cachard,
>>> cairns
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:39:43 +0930
>>>> To:
>>>> CC:
>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] crocodile attack at Adelaide River
>>>> From:
>>>>
>>>> Yes he did wade into the river, I believe. In another recent attack a
>>>> bloke was apparently dragged out of his dinghy.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve heard several reports of people who live in the area, including
>>>> children, being lunged at by crocodiles as they fished or stood on the
>>>> landings or the banks. In the past a few residents have told me they’ve
>>>> complained about the cruises for this reason.
>>>>
>>>> Denise
>>>>
>>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>>> PO Box 71
>>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>>>
>>>> PhD candidate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory
>>>> 043 8650 835
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Aug 2014, at 2:09 pm, Jeremy O'Wheel <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ABC news are reporting that there's never been a person attacked in a
>>>>> boat at Adelaide River, and that the fisherman in the last attack had
>>>>> waded into the river to un-snag his fishing line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 August 2014 14:04, Charles Hunter via Birding-Aus
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was in the Top End last year I visited the Adelaide River and did
>>>>> the croc cruises.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was amazed (like most people on the boat) at how high the 4 metre plus
>>>>> crocodiles could jump to get the chickens attached to the rope.
>>>>>
>>>>> After seeing crocodiles behave in this manner, I personally would never
>>>>> fish (or bird watch) in a tinny in any parts of northern Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the croc cruise we stopped at other parts of the Adelaide River and
>>>>> saw many crocodiles.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Two weeks ago Dad and I saw a 4m plus croc in one of the permanent water
>>>>> holes in Lakefield N.P. (Queensland).
>>>>>
>>>>> At Iron Range N.P. a couple of days later the Ranger told us to be very
>>>>> careful bird watching close to the deep pools in the rivers and streams
>>>>> due to crocs (even in the dry season).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 1:39 PM, Denise Goodfellow via Birding-Aus
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the early 1980s I’ve been taking birders to this area of the
>>>>> Adelaide River, mainly looking for Mangrove Golden Whistler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having more experience with crocodiles than most, I’m very careful with
>>>>> clients. Firstly I scout the area to ensure no crocs are lying under the
>>>>> trees, and then I keep clients keep several metres away from banks.
>>>>> Occasionally twitchers behave stupidly, one of the reasons why I’m not
>>>>> very keen on taking some of them. Jim Zimmer of San Diego made me tell
>>>>> his birding club what I say to such people!
>>>>>
>>>>> My Aboriginal son, Reverend P. Nganjmirra, a traditional Kunwinjku man,
>>>>> said there were more big crocodiles around now that in his grandfather's
>>>>> time, probably because of the introduction of stock. Whether there is now
>>>>> a reduction of cattle, buffalo and horses I don’t know. But from the
>>>>> attack on the South Alligator River recently, where a man was dragged out
>>>>> of his dinghy it seems that some crocodiles may be targeting the next
>>>>> biggest item in the food chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I suggest that birders be very careful when around Top End
>>>>> waterways. Avoid hiring small dinghies for a start, and no matter what
>>>>> the twitch don’t go near the water!
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>>>> PO Box 71
>>>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>>>>
>>>>> PhD candidate
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>>>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern
>>>>> Territory
>>>>> 043 8650 835
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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