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crocodile attack at Adelaide River

To: Denise Goodfellow <>
Subject: crocodile attack at Adelaide River
From: Allan Richardson via Birding-Aus <>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:11:24 +1000
Shame the years of feeding haven't changed the way of the crocodiles like the 
one in the video below.

The news said the crocodile that took the man had been fed for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlz6iNw0Qes

Allan

On 19/08/2014, at 6:42 PM, Denise Goodfellow via Birding-Aus wrote:

> I often saw fishermen and their spouses sitting on the bank where this man 
> was taken.  They usually identified themselves as Vietnamese.  Although I 
> always warned them about crocodiles I never saw them change their behaviour.  
> 
> Denise
> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
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> PhD candidate 
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> On 19 Aug 2014, at 5:03 pm, martin cachard <> wrote:
> 
>> I must say I've spent many mornings sitting very watchfully & cautiously 
>> under the mangroves (on the north side of the bridge over the Adelaide River 
>> on the hwy on the eastern bank a few metres back from the water).  I was 
>> always amazed at the size of some of the crocs floating along the river, 
>> especially heading upstream under the bridge with what I believe must have 
>> been the in-coming tide - some were huge!! in one hour one morning I counted 
>> 25 crocs sailing past all heading up-river & most were 15 ft long minimum!!!
>> certainly a great spot for Mangrove Golden Whistlers & Arafura Fantails, but 
>> I have to concur with Denise, please be very careful if u ever go there!!
>> 
>> even more astonishing for me was the size & abundance of the crocs at Shady 
>> Camp on the lower Mary River - what a spot!! there were at least 5 or 6 big 
>> monster crocs hanging there that must have been 20ft or longer - one 
>> individual was the biggest male I've ever seen, & I've seen a LOT of crocs!! 
>> this guy was a minimum 25ft, no kidding!!
>> what was most alarming about this spot was the teenage boys & their fathers 
>> actually fishing from the banks at dusk standing within ONE metre of the 
>> shoreline right where the crocs were - i'm not kidding, it was 
>> gob-smackingly dumb!! I told them about the crocs I had seen there that day, 
>> & they just dismissed it with a chorus of "yeah mate, she'll be right mate, 
>> thanx!!" then all had a swig...
>> honestly, some people....!!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> martin cachard,
>> cairns
>> 
>> 
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>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:39:43 +0930
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>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] crocodile attack at Adelaide River
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>>> Yes he did wade into the river, I believe. In another recent attack a bloke 
>>> was apparently dragged out of his dinghy. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve heard several reports of people who live in the area, including 
>>> children, being lunged at by crocodiles as they fished or stood on the 
>>> landings or the banks. In the past a few residents have told me they’ve 
>>> complained about the cruises for this reason. 
>>> 
>>> Denise
>>> 
>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>> PO Box 71
>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
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>>> PhD candidate 
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>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory
>>> 043 8650 835
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>>> On 19 Aug 2014, at 2:09 pm, Jeremy O'Wheel <> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ABC news are reporting that there's never been a person attacked in a boat 
>>>> at Adelaide River, and that the fisherman in the last attack had waded 
>>>> into the river to un-snag his fishing line. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeremy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 August 2014 14:04, Charles Hunter via Birding-Aus 
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in the Top End last year I visited the Adelaide River and did 
>>>> the croc cruises.
>>>> 
>>>> I was amazed (like most people on the boat) at how high the 4 metre plus 
>>>> crocodiles could jump to get the chickens attached to the rope.
>>>> 
>>>> After seeing crocodiles behave in this manner, I personally would never 
>>>> fish (or bird watch) in a tinny in any parts of northern Australia.
>>>> 
>>>> After the croc cruise we stopped at other parts of the Adelaide River and 
>>>> saw many crocodiles.....
>>>> 
>>>> Two weeks ago Dad and I saw a 4m plus croc in one of the permanent water 
>>>> holes in Lakefield N.P. (Queensland).
>>>> 
>>>> At Iron Range N.P. a couple of days later the Ranger told us to be very 
>>>> careful bird watching close to the deep pools in the rivers and streams 
>>>> due to crocs (even in the dry season).
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Charles
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 1:39 PM, Denise Goodfellow via Birding-Aus 
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Since the early 1980s I’ve been taking birders to this area of the 
>>>> Adelaide River, mainly looking for Mangrove Golden Whistler.
>>>> 
>>>> Having more experience with crocodiles than most, I’m very careful with 
>>>> clients. Firstly I scout the area to ensure no crocs are lying under the 
>>>> trees, and then I keep clients keep several metres away from banks. 
>>>> Occasionally twitchers behave stupidly, one of the reasons why I’m not 
>>>> very keen on taking some of them. Jim Zimmer of San Diego made me tell his 
>>>> birding club what I say to such people! 
>>>> 
>>>> My Aboriginal son, Reverend P. Nganjmirra, a traditional Kunwinjku man, 
>>>> said there were more big crocodiles around now that in his grandfather's 
>>>> time, probably because of the introduction of stock. Whether there is now 
>>>> a reduction of cattle, buffalo and horses I don’t know. But from the 
>>>> attack on the South Alligator River recently, where a man was dragged out 
>>>> of his dinghy it seems that some crocodiles may be targeting the next 
>>>> biggest item in the food chain.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I suggest that birders be very careful when around Top End 
>>>> waterways. Avoid hiring small dinghies for a start, and no matter what the 
>>>> twitch don’t go near the water!
>>>> 
>>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>>> PO Box 71
>>>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>>> 
>>>> PhD candidate
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>>>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>>>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory
>>>> 043 8650 835
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