To: david robertson <>
Subject: Vietnam
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:14:23 +1100
Interesting - I went some years ago and there were very few birds - but
also very few guides, so at least where there were birds they were not too
hard to see. Was in Thailand earlier this year where there were lots of
birds and lots of guides and in many places the guides had clearings in the
forest and fed the birds mealworms to bring them in. So at least there were
birds (but only if you came with mealworms in some places!) but not exactly
what one would hope for. Big signs in some places forbidding feeding but no
sign of enforcement.

On 18 March 2014 14:03, david robertson <> wrote:

> I have just returned from a very disappointing bird watching tour of
> Vietnam.
> The Vietnamese population is intent on wiping out all bird life by
> shooting,
> trapping or poisoning and is succeeding.   One can drive for a whole day
> through farm land and not see a single bird, not even a myna.  The paddy
> fields are green deserts with a few but only a few egrets and pond herons,
> but above, where one would expect to see drongos, shrikes, kingfishers,
> Dollarbirds on the telegraph wires there was nothing.
> Some birds have taken refuge in the national parks where they are slightly
> safer, but not beyond the reach of poachers and park rangers.
> What makes matters worse is the behaviour of the guides.  Every single one
> of them has the calls on his mobile phone hooked up to an amplifier.
> Imagine the effect of 6 or more guides, twice a day, seven days a week
> patrolling the same small stretch of forest.  It is little wonder that the
> target species, pittas, pheasants etc ignore the calls and wander off in
> the
> opposite direction.
> How can one change the attitude of a whole population?
> David Robertson
> Adelaide
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