I personally think it's ridiculous and pointless trying to tick off: Greylag
Geese, Muscovy Duck, Guineafowl, peacocks etc. unless you know for a fact that
the population is a viable one. So breeding has to occur for a number of years
(I reckon about 50 to be safe!). Yes you see "Mallards" at lots of ornamental
lakes, and they could be there for a number of years, but if you look closely
where are the females? This is not a viable population! Apart from anything
else I hate ticking these things anyway, so why add these things to your list
just for the sake of it. you may as well go to the zoo & tick those birds! Part
of the enjoyment of birdwatching in my view is to see wild birds in action, &
although I hate ticking Mynas, Spotted Doves, Starlings , Sparrows, they are
unfortunately part of the Aussie environment & so they are on my list, under
introduced. I remember there were a flock of Greylag type Geese at the lakes
around Kitty Miller Bay atPhillip Island for many years,
at least 20. They looked so scummy, full of white and mottled birds, amongst
birds that looked a little bit like 'real' Greylags', I never ticked them. I
never saw any evidence of breeding & now they have fortunately disappeared, so
I don't have to worry about them. I reckon keep your list free of these nasties
& you'll feel much better about your list of cool Aussie birds & just a few
examples of viable introduced scummy foreign muck!-Kevin Bartram
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:50:44 +1100
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Graylag Goose - status in Victoria amongst other
> "tickable ferals"
> As much as I like bird watching, I think this issue about "tickable" is
> amusing. The word itself implies (to me) that there is a yes or no answer,
> which surely has been shown not to be true. Many shades of grey. If talking
> about your own list, then why would anyone else care? If you wish to compare
> with others, then agree on your terms, which might differ from yet other
> people. Is there any consequence of breaking someone else's rules on this?
> Although it does seem to me to be a bit emotionally vacuous to include free
> roaming domestics and recent dependent ferals, in a count, as though the
> number of species seen matters. (especially as it is hard to draw a dividing
> What matters is what birds live where and how they do it.
> I do advocate that records should be kept, so that we can monitor progress
> of problems. That only impacts on personal tick lists if you want it to.
> Each survey has its own protocols.
> Besides, I thought there is no Graylag Goose. I believe it is Greylag Goose.
> No one has made that correction, that I have noticed.
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