Both IOC and the recently released Birdlife Australia checklist list which
just follows IOC, list a number of ssp for mainland Australia( moluccanus).
This isn't based on recent research, they are just repeating all of the old
positions from as far back to Matthews without giving it any real thought.
They should have followed HANZAB, and this is yet another example of why the
BARC checklist should eventually cover subspecies to keep the others honest.
Cheers Jeff.
From: Nikolas Haass
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:56 PM
To: Jeff Davies; 'Tony Russell'; 'Kevin and Lizzie'; 'Frank O'Connor'
Cc: 'Birding-Aus'
Subject: Coconut Lorikeet
Forshaw, J. M. & Cooper, W. T. 1989. Parrots of the world. Blandford Press,
London.
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Nikolas Haass
Brisbane, QLD
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From: Jeff Davies <>
To: 'Tony Russell' <>; 'Kevin and Lizzie'
<>; 'Frank O'Connor' <>
Cc: 'Birding-Aus' <>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Coconut Lorikeet
Have just read the account in HANZAB and it did not recognize ssp
septentrionalis, Frank has made an honest mistake there.
HANZAB followed Forshore and Cooper(1989) and only recognized two forms from
mainland Australia Rainbow(moluccanus) and Red-collared(rubritorquis).
It goes on to suggest that the birds from n. Torres Strait are possibly ssp
caeruleiceps, this occurs directly onshore the mainland of NG, a plausible
assumption I would suggest. Observations of Lorikeets on the Islands from
recent birding trips have confirmed unsurprisingly that they are indeed
Coconut Lorikeet.
Cheers Jeff Davies
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Jeff Davies
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:14 PM
To: 'Tony Russell'; 'Kevin and Lizzie'; 'Frank O'Connor'
Cc: 'Birding-Aus'
Subject: Coconut Lorikeet
Boigu and Saibai are geographically SC New Guinea, and birds seen there have
been identified as Coconut Lorikeets, where's the muddle.
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Tony Russell
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 4:34 PM
To: 'Kevin and Lizzie'; 'Frank O'Connor'
Cc: 'Birding-Aus'
Subject: Coconut Lorikeet
This is a muddle !! Would someone please make a clear definitive statement
about this(these) species and subs. Thank you. Or is it that nobody really
knows ?
Tony.
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Kevin and
Lizzie
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 2:25 PM
To: Frank O'Connor
Cc: Birding-Aus
Subject: Coconut Lorikeet
Frank
The master spreadsheet
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/master_ioc_list_v3.4.xls at the IOC World Bird
Names website has a full breakdown of the species and subspecies in this
taxonomy with a brief description of range.
HBW has 20 subspecies of Rainbow Lorikeet, while the IOC appears to have 22
subspecies across 7 species. The only subspecies on the IOC spreadsheet
with a reference to Cape York is a subspecies of the split Rainbow Lorikeet,
T. m. sepentrionalis. The range of T. h. caeruleiceps is described as sc
New Guinea, and no races of Coconut Lorikeet are described as having a range
in Australia.
On 22 August 2013 13:39, Frank O'Connor <> wrote:
>
> I have further googled Coconut Lorikeet, and looked up the field guides.
> I have just looked up HANZAB. This is of course a little dated now,
> but it does state a separate sub species on northern Cape York and the
> Torres Strait and nearby PNG. It is sub species T. h. caeruleiceps.
>
> It looks like the IOC has split Rainbow Lorikeet (formerly about 22
> sub species), but kept the common name with the Australian species T.
> mollucanus rather than the former nominate which is now called Coconut
> Lorikeet. So it appears that Coconut Lorikeet in Australia is T. h.
> caeruleiceps.
>
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