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re "Night Parrot interview this morning"

To: 'Dave Torr' <>, 'Scott Baker' <>
Subject: re "Night Parrot interview this morning"
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:24:21 +1000
I don't know if just knowing the call will cause too many problems compared to 
having access to it for playback.

But I do wonder if speculation about what the call could be used for is 
premature. In the RN interview, John only mentioned one recording, which was 
made in 2007 from 1.5km away. Does anyone know if he managed to get more? 

If not then this one recording might be very faint compared to the background 
noise, nothing like the clarity we've come to expect as normal from the species 
recordings on the BOCA CDs, etc.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
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>  On Behalf Of 
> Dave Torr
> Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2013 7:04 AM
> To: Scott Baker
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] re "Night Parrot interview this morning"
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> I fear that as soon as the call is known then it will be 
> abused by some!
> 
> On 3 July 2013 19:38, Scott Baker <> wrote:
> 
> > Even if this site is considered too sensitive to allow 
> public access 
> > why is John Young refusing to provide recording of call? How can we 
> > protect this bird if we don't know the extent of its range and 
> > particular habitat requirements. Proper management which 
> may involve 
> > restricted access and restrictions on use of playback at known 
> > localities [such as with Noisy Scrub-bird] would be a more 
> realistic option.
> > I note in a similar case with the rediscovery of Jerdon's 
> Courser in 
> > southern India 1986- also a cryptic nocturnal species, the site was 
> > secured and surrounding land-holders issued with playback 
> devices with 
> > the recorded call to assist in surveys. This information has led to 
> > the establishment of wildlife reserves and staved off a 
> number of major developments.
> > No doubt John has best of intentions but hope for sake of 
> everyone and 
> > the Parrot he doesn't take his secret to the grave.
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