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Grey Teal no longer an accepted common name?

To: Nikolas Haass <>
Subject: Grey Teal no longer an accepted common name?
From: John Tongue <>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:33:50 +1000
Thanks Nicholas,
even as a (fairly poor) Birdline moderator (Tas), I wasn't aware of all that 
detail.

Cheers,
John Tongue
Birdline-Tas moderator.

On 10/06/2013, at 1:27 PM, Nikolas Haass wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> Eremaea is set by default on 'Clements (English)' - hence the American 
> English spelling 'Gray Teal'. However, you can set it on 'Australian 
> (English)' aka 'Australian (Inglis ;-)' and you will have 'Grey Teal'
> 
> And no, it is not an American duck. But why shouldn't Americans be 'allowed' 
> to talk about Australian birds? There are German, French, Spanish, Italian 
> (and hundreds of other languages) names for wildlife outside the range of 
> these respective languages. It makes total sense to me to have a name for 
> let's say Budgerigar in other languages (e.g. Wellensittich in German, which 
> would translate into Waved Parakeet). Have you ever seen a wild Lion in 
> Australia, NZ, North America, UK or Ireland? Why is it called a Lion then and 
> not e.g. the Swahili word 'Simba'? Why do we use English words for Australian 
> birds and not the respective aboriginal names? Yes, the latter would be very 
> complicated given the multitude of aboriginal languages overlapping with the 
> range of many species.
> 
> Nikolas (Eremaea/Birdline NSW moderator)
>  
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
> 
> Brisbane, QLD
> From: Robert Inglis <>
> To: John Tongue <> 
> Cc: Birding-Aus <> 
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Grey Teal no longer an accepted common name?
> 
> So Anas gracilis is an American duck?
> 
> Bob Inglis
> Sandstone Point
> Qld
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: John Tongue
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 11:47 AM
> To: Robert Inglis
> Cc: Birding-Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Grey Teal no longer an accepted common name?
> 
> Probably "Gray Teal"?  They often use American spelling.
> 
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
> 
> 
> On 10/06/2013, at 8:59 AM, Robert Inglis wrote:
> 
> > I note that Eremaea does not recognise Grey Teal as a common name for Anas 
> > gracilis.
> > Does anyone else find this at least a little odd?
> >
> > Bob Inglis
> > Sandstone Point
> > Qld
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