Fwd: Re: Ethics in Bird-Photography

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Subject: Fwd: Re: Ethics in Bird-Photography
From: "Geoff Jones" <>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:46:01 +1000
I am wondering if it is a slow time of year and it is time to have a bash at
the bird photographer once again! Honestly you are talking about things of
the past. I do not know of any and I repeat any current bird photographer
that I know of in Australia who does the sort of thing that people here are
talking about. In the past these techniques of photographing birds at the
nest and pruning shrubs was most certainly done, as in the old days it was
the only way to photograph some of the more secretive species and this
cannot be denied. But it is a technique of the past not the present as we as
a responsible group, I am including the Australian Birdlife Photography
group which as some of you will know has a strict code of ethics for
photographing birds. The event of modern digital cameras and the length of
the lenses used takes away any need for being close to a nest and almost
most photographs these days are taken nowhere near nests as well. So please
put away your guns and we promise not to come out with chainsaws!

Kindest Regards
Geoff Jones

-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Peter Shute
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:38 AM
To: 'Greg and Val Clancy'; 'Tony Russel'; 
Subject: Fwd: Re: Ethics in Bird-Photography

I'm guessing that it was mostly the capabilities of their cameras that drove
people to use these techniques, and that the cameras lots of us now own have
far longer lenses, sensor speeds they could only dream of with film, and
cost a fraction of what they paid for theirs.

I'm also guessing that all the more obvious tricks have been abandoned, for
fear of ridicule.

I photograph road kill too, spreading the wings and tail to see the feathers
properly. It would be pretty hard to capture that level of plumage detail in
a photo of a free flying bird. All for my own education - I'll never be a
reasonably well known naturalist.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Greg and 
> Val Clancy
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:13 AM
> To: Tony Russel; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Fwd: Re: Ethics in Bird-Photography
> I have a 'treasure' of a book by a reasonably well known naturalist 
> from some decades back.  It is a great example of what not to do with 
> bird photography.  A number of the birds are obviously dead, either 
> recently shot (by the author?) or found dead or are mounted specimens.  
> Of particular interest to me is the Black-necked Stork photo which 
> shows a bird with a broken neck leaning up against a sapling eucalypt.  
> The Ground Parrot appears to have a glass eye and a Crimson Rosella 
> shown climbing up the trunk of a tree using its bill and claws has a 
> broken tail.  One photo of the author shows him crouched at a Brush 
> Turkey mound, with rifle across his lap!  Other photos are of young 
> birds that couldn't get away.
> With modern cameras it is unlikely that photographers/naturalist will 
> need to resort to this sort of behaviour but it was an interesting 
> part of our history.
> I should also admit that I, often, take photos of road killed animals 
> for research purposes but never try to pass them off as living 
> individuals.

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