ID Help - Timeless question: C. Sparrowhawk or B. Goshawk

[Bill Jolly <>]

Good-evening all! Definite Brown Goshawk for me. Bill Jolly
 > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 06:40:38 +0200
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] ID Help - Timeless question: C. Sparrowhawk or B.      
> Goshawk
> 
> Hello from Finland,
> 
> I casually photographed this bird on August 25th, 2012, in Sydney. The bird
> was then soaring high above Centennial Park and our initial thoughts were:
> a Collared Sparrowhawk. I think we never took a very long look at the bird,
> as we didn't have a scope, but our instinctive ID was based on the jizz.
> 
> As my personal experience ranges only to European Accipiter species, I do
> know the difference in the jizz between the local Sparrowhawk and Goshawk.
> But when it comes to the Australian species, I think that the jizz might be
> a little different? But is it?
> 
> In the photos, the bird seems to be a bit more stocky than to what I am
> used to in Sparrowhawks, but on the other hand, I remember that the flight
> seemed more Sparrowhawk-ish. And is that hooded "look" usual to the species
> (whichever it is)?
> 
> Could some of you verify that this was indeed a Collared Sparrowhawk or
> that we were wrong and it is a Brown Goshawk instead?
> 
> Best three of the photos that were taken of the bird (they're a bit small,
> as the bird was very high):
> http://www.harrynystrom.net/images/accipiter_sp20120825-02m.jpg
> http://www.harrynystrom.net/images/accipiter_sp20120825-16m.jpg
> http://www.harrynystrom.net/images/accipiter_sp20120825-17m.jpg
> 
> By the way, we positively identified a couple of Collared Sparrowhawks
> during our trip, but I am still missing the Brown Goshawk -tick altogether.
> 
> Cheers,
> -Harry
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