G'day John et al.
Either of the two life list spreadsheets here have what you want:
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/ioc-lists/master-list/
Cheers
Steve
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM, John Weigel <>wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Is there a version of current IOC list out there that DOES include all
> current subspecies?
>
> John
>
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> To: "Frank O'Connor" <>
> Subject: Splits, lumps, taxonomies, check-lists, whatever.
> From: Dave Torr <>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 07:23:06 +1100
>
> Good comments Frank.
>
> I think a key is that all databases etc should be recording subspecies -
> and many unfortunately don't. If subspecies are recorded then splits can be
> handled very easily - if not then it is sometimes possible to process a
> split based on location (eg Shrike-tit) but often impossible. Lumps of
> course (which seem much rarer these days!) of course present no real issues
> for recording birds - except that hopefully the system that is used records
> the new subspecies that is created by the lump, which will help if/when a
> split occurs!
>
>
>
> On 7 January 2013 00:00, Frank O'Connor <> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks to Bob Inglis for discussing this. It is a subject that needs to
> > be revisited annually.
> >
> > A few comments on his detailed contribution.
> >
> > C&B2008 is not the only "Australian" taxonomy. The CSIRO has one, which
> > is used by the Australian Government in legislation. In Western
> Australia,
> > the WA Museum has its own (which I believe is used in WA government
> > legislation). It is not a simple task to change the taxonomy for the
> > Australian or WA governments. This could very well mean that legislation
> > needs to be amended to reflect the changes.
> >
> > It is not a simple decision for BirdLife Australia to adopt a new
> > taxonomy. I believe that BARC has recommended that BA adopt a "living"
> > taxonomy, and has suggested the IOC rather than the BirdLife
> International
> > taxonomy. BA has many projects such as the Atlas. It is quite a big
> task
> > to change the taxonomy for projects such as that. It is not something
> that
> > you want to do every 3 months or so when the IOC issues an update. Even
> > annually. It is not just a case of reprinting forms.
> >
> > Bob mentions that he wants it mostly to be able to name his photos. I
> > have my own photos, and I also catalogue the photos for the BirdLife WA
> > digital image library. I name the photos such as "Restless Flycatcher
> > nana" and "Restless Flycatcher inquieta". This really isn't a big deal
> > when the taxonomy is updated. The big deal is that the order of
> everything
> > changes. The order of the families, and the order within the families.
> > This requires a lot of work changing bird lists, spreadsheets, folders,
> > etc.
> >
> > So we need to accept that taxonomies change (and that this is a good
> > thing); that there will be different taxonomies (and this can't be
> > avoided); that BA will at some point update its taxonomy (to reflect
> > changes such as Swan River Honeyeater, Western Ground Parrot, Western
> > Grasswren, Western Quail-thrush, etc) but that it won't do it very often;
> > and this discussion will (properly) reoccur at fairly frequent intervals
> on
> > birding-aus.
> >
> >
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