Yes, your interpretation is correct that I was referring to the
northern Queensland form of the Little Shrike-thrush. You might appreciate that
Victorians may not be familiar with this rufous form and therefore might be
more likely to look for an alternative species when they see the rufous form
(hence the prospect of it being a Bower's Shrike-thrush is explored). To locals
in northern Queensland that is not an issue. You of course correctly identify
the other features of the bird that exclude Bower's Shrike-thrush.
Having said that the geography is pretty clear Philip - the Wet Tropics is 1000
km south of Cape York. Bower's Shrike-thrush does not get even close to Cape
York. The nearest rainforest to Cape York is the Lockerbie scrub, but even much
further south, Bower's Shrike-thrush is absent from the rainforests of Iron
Range and Macillwraith Range and Cape Melville (probably the most southern area
of rainforest that might be labelled part of Cape York Peninsula).
Unfortunately most people do not use the location "Cape York" correctly and
usually use that name when they actually mean Cape York Peninsula, as I suspect
was the case for the original image (but happy to be corrected). The northern
extent of the wet tropics (for example Windsor Tableland or Bloomfield area)
would not normally be referred to as part of Cape York Peninsula. It might be a
moot point where Cape York Peninsula might be said to begin but generally the
term does not overlap in common use with the Wet Tropics Regi
on. There are many such endemics that are present in the Wet Tropics but
absent from Cape York Peninsula rainforests, which in character and
biodiversity more closely resemble New Guinea than the Gondwanan nature of the
Wet Tropics. But of course there is some overlap.
From: Philip Veerman
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012 1:04 PM
To: Valentine, Peter
Subject: What bird #2
I'm not disputing as it appears to have a whitish face, not coloured face
and doesn't appear to have a stripy front and on size I think you are right.
Can I clarify? I'm assuming by "The northern Queensland form", you are
referring to The northern Queensland form of Little Shrike-thrush. My
looking at a book shows Bower's Shrike-thrush is as much or more rufous.
Then you write "Bower's Shrike-thrush is confined to upland rainforest in
the Wet Tropics." The original post says the bird was on Cape York. Is Cape
York not "upland rainforest in the Wet Tropics?" Sorry I don't follow that.
On Behalf Of Valentine,
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012 7:56 AM
To: Jude Latt
Cc: <>; <>
Subject: What bird #2
There is no doubt it is a Little Shrike-thrush. The northern
Queensland form is distinctly rufous as the image clearly shows (it's former
name was Rufous Shrike-thrush). As other posts also indicate, Bower's
Shrike-thrush is confined to upland rainforest in the Wet Tropics.
On 01/11/2012, at 5:31 AM, Jude Latt <>
> I see there were two posts for Bower's Shrike-thrush and two for
> Little Shrike-thrush. Still wondering which thrush won ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve <>
> To: birding-aus <>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:24 am
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] What bird #2
> I was filming a pair of Shining Flycatchers up on Cape York, and this
> plain brown bird was just hanging around, now is it a juvenile or
> I didn't see any feeding and then they all flew off.
> Steve Sheers
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