Hi Dave.
True but the survey talks about waterbirds so not just shorebirds and as it
pointed out in the article a lot of it is weather dependant over the previous
years.
For example the Banded Lapwing I wouldnt regard as being a wetland bird in
particular so wetland habitat loss may not the the case for this species but
change in farming practices and weather are most likely the issues.
Agree Australia has had in the past and is still on a very destructive path for
many birds but when it comes to mudflat loss I can promise you its not a patch
on China and south Korea.
Lets hope with the inland being wet for several years numbers of some species
will bounce back.
Cheers Adrian
On 31/08/2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Torr wrote:
> Habitat loss on the way to and from the breeding grounds is indeed a problem
> - but I seem to recall that there has been a greater decline in resident
> waders (
> http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2008/06/resident_wader_decline.html ) than
> the migratory ones, which implies we are worse at managing our wetlands than
> the much-maligned countries to out north.
>
> On 31 August 2012 16:19, Adrian Boyle <> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Yes many migratory shorebirds have started to return but is fairly normal to
> be happening at this time of the year.
> Most birds arriving over the past few weeks will most likely be failed
> breeders or females.
>
> In the past days in Broome we have started seeing juvenile birds of Greater
> Sand Plover, Black-tailed Godwit and Curlew Sandpipers.
> Most will trickle back in over the next 6 weeks or so.
> However most Oriental Plovers and Pratincole will be a bit later.
>
> 3 months seems a very short time to be away so I assume its unlikely to be
> the last birds to leave and the first birds back.
> Depending on the species involved they may need to stop at several places on
> their way north approx 4-6 weeks then breed with an incubation of 3 weeks.
> Depending on the sex and the species to what they do next but several weeks
> of fattening and then head back. This would be cutting the 3 months away
> pretty fine but possible.
>
> The other option could also be that these individuals were not adults maybe
> 2nd year birds that obtained breeding plumage but didnt migrate and moved to
> some other place relatively close.
>
> Who knows really? I guess the main thing is is that they are back safely
> after dodging habitat loss after habitat loss to and from their breeding
> grounds.
>
> Cheers Adrian
>
>
>
> On 31/08/2012, at 1:11 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
>
> > I wonder if that is a reflection on the conditions in their northern
> > hemisphere range?
> >
> > It has always seemed rather inefficient to fly from one end of the planet
> > to another to breed. Nature tends not to be inefficient. But then, there
> > are humans.
> >
> > Carl Clifford
> >
> > On 31/08/2012, at 2:28 PM, "Greg Roberts" <> wrote:
> >
> >> I had Wandering Tattlers in breeding plumage today at Alexandra Headland on
> >> the Sunshine Coast. It appears these birds have been absent on migration
> >> for
> >> a mere three months.
> >>
> >> See here for pictures and more: http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/
> >>
> >> Greg Roberts
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