True - in general the "western" countries (and I am a Pom) destroyed much
of their habitats a long time ago and now developing countries destroy
their own to satisfy western demands - eg Amazon for beef, SE asia for Palm
Oil..... I remember being in Vietnam some years ago and our local guide was
proud of how they were destroying the paddy fields to build factories to
supply Nike, Sony and others......
On 31 August 2012 17:01, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> We have a long way to go to match the wholesale destruction of wader
> habitat that has occurred in the Koreas and China etc. No doubt we will do
> our best though. An LPG and/or iron ore loader on Eighty Mile beach should
> help.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 31/08/2012, at 4:40 PM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>
> Habitat loss on the way to and from the breeding grounds is indeed a
> problem - but I seem to recall that there has been a greater decline in
> resident waders (
> http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2008/06/resident_wader_decline.html )
> than the migratory ones, which implies we are worse at managing our
> wetlands than the much-maligned countries to out north.
>
> On 31 August 2012 16:19, Adrian Boyle <> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Yes many migratory shorebirds have started to return but is fairly normal
>> to be happening at this time of the year.
>> Most birds arriving over the past few weeks will most likely be failed
>> breeders or females.
>>
>> In the past days in Broome we have started seeing juvenile birds of
>> Greater Sand Plover, Black-tailed Godwit and Curlew Sandpipers.
>> Most will trickle back in over the next 6 weeks or so.
>> However most Oriental Plovers and Pratincole will be a bit later.
>>
>> 3 months seems a very short time to be away so I assume its unlikely to
>> be the last birds to leave and the first birds back.
>> Depending on the species involved they may need to stop at several places
>> on their way north approx 4-6 weeks then breed with an incubation of 3
>> weeks. Depending on the sex and the species to what they do next but
>> several weeks of fattening and then head back. This would be cutting the 3
>> months away pretty fine but possible.
>>
>> The other option could also be that these individuals were not adults
>> maybe 2nd year birds that obtained breeding plumage but didnt migrate and
>> moved to some other place relatively close.
>>
>> Who knows really? I guess the main thing is is that they are back safely
>> after dodging habitat loss after habitat loss to and from their breeding
>> grounds.
>>
>> Cheers Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31/08/2012, at 1:11 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder if that is a reflection on the conditions in their northern
>> hemisphere range?
>> >
>> > It has always seemed rather inefficient to fly from one end of the
>> planet to another to breed. Nature tends not to be inefficient. But then,
>> there are humans.
>> >
>> > Carl Clifford
>> >
>> > On 31/08/2012, at 2:28 PM, "Greg Roberts" <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had Wandering Tattlers in breeding plumage today at Alexandra
>> Headland on
>> >> the Sunshine Coast. It appears these birds have been absent on
>> migration for
>> >> a mere three months.
>> >>
>> >> See here for pictures and more:
>> http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/
>> >>
>> >> Greg Roberts
>> >>
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