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ID Help - possible Salvin's off Sydney

To: Joshua Bergmark <>, "" <>
Subject: ID Help - possible Salvin's off Sydney
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:58:25 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Joshua et al.,

This bird is a first year cauta or steadi. A first year Salvin's would have way 
more sharply demarcated primary tips, smudgy lesser underwing coverts and a 
more solid grey head. The 'messy' lesser under primary coverts are normal for 
cauta or steadi.

Steve's article may be useful:
http://www.neotropicalbirdclub.org/neobird/NeoBird4-Howell.pdf ;


Cheers,

Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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From: Joshua Bergmark <>
To:  
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: ID Help - possible Salvin's off Sydney
 




Hi everyone   This afternoon, Max Breckenridge and I spent 2 hours seawatching 
on North Head. It was a little slow and cold (as seawatching normally is), but 
just before we left, we picked up a "Shy-type" Albatross. After reviewing our 
photos, we're not convinced that it is cauta, and we're tentitively saying 
Salvin's, based on the "messy" front wingpatch (which seems to not appear in 
juvenile cauta), and the overall colour... Neither of us are experts of course, 
so we would appreciate any explanations as to why this is/is not a Salvin's 
Albatross. Some of the better photos are on our blog, and I have more if they 
are wanted.  
http://fortheloveof-birds.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/north-head-seawatching-trial.html ;
  Cheers,  Joshua Bergmark                           
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