It has also been pointed out I recall that all photo sharing sites claim
all sorts of rights over your photos. Their argument I recall is that
without those rights they could not legally make them available for other
people to look at - but the article I read said that in theory they could
do anything with them.
I guess some are better than others, but before you upload to a website you
should probably also read the fine print!
On 24 July 2012 07:47, Cheryl Ridge <> wrote:
> I've been burnt by a couple of situations which has made
> me more cautious about the way in which my photography is
> used and by whom.
>
> As far as amateurs giving their photos away and worse still -
> being ripped off - I will again mention the issue of photo
> competitions.
>
> Beware of the fine print, the goobly gook, the legalese that
> people might have a tendancy to skim over. You don't even have
> to be a winner but simply an ENTRANT to be subject to some
> pretty unfair terms and conditions or potential outcomes.
>
> Wording varies but there is always the risk that some promoters
> will glean the rights to your image - to use/display or even
> onsell as they wish without your approval and without any
> obligation to offer compensation! If you are "lucky" you
> might be credited (named).
>
> Go on, google/find some photo competition terms and conditions.
> Pretty scary stuff some of it!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/23/12, Cheryl Ridge <> wrote:
>
> > From: Cheryl Ridge <>
> > Subject: What value a photo?
> > To:
> > Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:26 AM
> > I do 'get' that the advent of
> > digital/advanced technology
> > may have a bearing on people's attitudes and the value they
> > put (or DON'T put) on an image.
> >
> > The link Inger Vandyke put up was very informative and
> > quite an eye opener, actually.
> >
> > In addition, the following blog by Mike Spinak 'spoke' to
> > me:
> >
> > http://naturography.com/when-publishers-request-freebies/
> >
> > After reading through various blogs and comments that
> > followed
> > I can't help but think the request for freebie photos is
> > a
> > fairly regular occurence.
> >
> > If anything it has now made me a little wiser and even
> > "braver"
> > about dealing with some of the random image requests ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/21/12, Cheryl Ridge <>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Cheryl Ridge <>
> > > Subject: What value a photo?
> > > To:
> > > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 10:47 AM
> > > Thanks to those who have chimed in.
> > > Thinking more on this...
> > >
> > > I guess the desire/expectation and availability of
> > > freebies goes beyond photography. Interesting reading.
> > >
> > > But my own experiences vary from 'donating' images for
> >
> > > educational purposes to actually getting paid for
> > images
> > > in books or interpretive panels etc. Or sometimes
> > there
> > > might be a trade/barter arrangement. All good.
> > >
> > > I've been thinking about the value of photos in
> > society.
> > > A world without imagery would be a pretty dull place
> > not
> > > to mention affecting an organization’s ability to
> > market
> > > themselves, a great bearing on advertising and sales,
> > > education, conservation, news reporting, memories,
> > > recording history and events.
> > >
> > > Imagine if all photographers giving away freebies
> > > suddenly exclaimed "fair suck of the sav" and
> > > put a stop to certain things, could be interesting.
> > >
> > > Take photo competitions as an example. Some terms and
> > > conditions are unbelievable. Some competitions seem to
> >
> > > be a front for an "image grab" - to stockpile eyecandy
> > to
> > > promote their own business/market their
> > products/generate
> > > traffic/income or even distribute or onsell to others!
> > >
> > > And really why can’t photographers stand up and be
> > > counted
> > > amongst other people who get compensated somewhat for
> > their
> > > time/effort/product? Office workers, builders, rangers,
> >
> > > graphic designers, editors or publishers, retailers,
> > > hobbyists, craft makers, printing firms.
> > >
> > > Is a photographer’s time/product worth less?
> > >
> > >
> > > (my apologies if the formatting is a little strange!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 7/20/12, Cheryl Ridge <>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Cheryl Ridge <>
> > > > Subject: What value a photo?
> > > > To:
> > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
> > > > Hi folks
> > > >
> > > > It can feel nice to help a project out,
> > > > especially if it is for a "good cause"
> > > > and seeing one's name in print (credit line)
> > > > can be a buzz.
> > > >
> > > > But is there a general expectation that bird
> > > > and nature images should just be supplied
> > > > freely to whoever asks?
> > > >
> > > > There will always be those who cheerfully
> > > > give their images away because they see
> > > > themselves as JUST an amateur or it is
> > > > JUST a hobby for them.
> > > >
> > > > Bird and nature photography is a hobby for
> > > > me yet I do find myself thinking more about
> > > > the 'value' of an image and now take a step
> > > > back before sending off a high resolution
> > > > image to someone.
> > > >
> > > > First I will try to establish if they
> > > > are seeking donations/freebies, their
> > > > intended audience and what they plan
> > > > to do with the finished product. Based
> > > > on their response I decide if I can
> > > > help them.
> > > >
> > > > If necessary I take the opportunity to
> > > > mention that photographers have their
> > > > own expenses, time and skills associated
> > > > with the image not to mention things like
> > > > petrol/accom costs, photography permits
> > > > in some cases, wear and tear on equipment
> > > > even insurance.
> > > >
> > > > I am hoping other bird/nature photographers
> > > > might be willing to share their experiences or
> > > > thoughts with regard to giving away images.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl Ridge
> > > >
> > >
> >
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