C&B vs IOC taxonomy

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Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy
From: Carl Billingham <>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
I agree on the Norfolk Island Golden Whistler Mike.  They obviously look 
different to the mainland species (the male lacks the mainland males 
colouring), their calls are quite different (even to an auditory challenged 
person like myself) and when I used some playback of the mainland species 
their island cousins showed no interest in it at all.  
>From a lay-birders perspective that was pretty conclusive.  Bring on the DNA 

C&B vs IOC taxonomy

from [Mike Carter]
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C&B vs IOC taxonomy

"Mike Carter" < >

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:42:56 +1000

A report from Cocos yesterday that there is a Great Egret on the atoll reminded 
me that this is another change. Our bird is no longer Eastern Great Egret as 
that split has been reversed, not unexpectedly I suggest. I agree with Frank 
O'Connor that Western Fieldwren is another that will one day be reversed 
especially as the man whom it was named after doesn't believe it! I think that 
when you dig deeply Paul, you will continue to find more changes. When the task 
is finished please share it with us in an easily digested format as you are 
quite right, many of us are interested. You will need to set an end-date for 
changes. I also wondered why you mentioned only Western and not also Northern 
Shriketit as possible future splits. Of interest to me as I have seen the 
former but not the latter. Other potential splits include the Norfolk Island 
Golden Whistler, the Figbirds (N & S), some of the Sittellas and the recently 
discussed Masked Lapwing and Spur-winged
 Plover. And thanks for not damning my error - I of course meant Yellow-browed 
not Yellow-crowned Warbler. Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136


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