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Crow lumping - my list is not happy.

To: "'Tony Keene'" <>, "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Crow lumping - my list is not happy.
From: "Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 01:13:24 +1100
Got me!! Cheers Jeff.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Davies  
Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2012 1:11 AM
To: 'Tony Keene'; 'birding-aus'
Subject: Crow lumping - my list is not happy.

G'day Tony,

three ssp freely cohabiting in Victoria but without interbreeding and
maintaining structural type and distinctive calls eg behaving like species. 
I would be astounded if the IOC just automatically ran with this one.

Cheers Jeff.


 

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Tony Keene
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:30 PM
To: birding-aus
Subject: Crow lumping - my list is not happy.

Evening all,

 A colleague at the Royal Zoological Society emailed me the first page of a
paper due out soon on lumping all five Australian crow/raven species into
one species. Now, I know that lumps sometime happen, but having to take
Australian Raven, Little Raven and Torresian Crow off of my year and life
lists seems a bit excessive. The authors state that the morphological
differences between the five don't warrant full species status for each and
their DNA work appears to back it up.
 As B-A doesn't do attachments, I've housed a copy of the first page (all
that's available at the moment) on my website if anyone's interested:
 http://www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk/uni/JAvGen-advance-83474.pdf
 Given that the IOC can often support splits or lumps from the evidence of a
single study, I would expect this one to be up for an IOC proposal soon.
 I thought most research supported splitting everything these days, but I
wonder if we're going to see a reversal of this over the next few years,
like they did in the 1960s...
 Cheers,

 Tony


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