Hi Jen,
Haven't read the article but am aware of the classification problems, sad
thing is that way back in 2003 I found some feathers from one of these
cuckoos that had been harassed by a drongo, I offered it to a well-known
birding-scientist who was going to Europe to discuss bird DNA with other
experts but he was 'pushed' for time and declined the offer. At least we
might have had some idea what species we are seeing in Australia.
Oh well, maybe I will find another one day....
Tom
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM, jenny spry <> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Have you seen the Forktail article on *Cuculus saturatus saturatus* and
> *Cuculus
> saturatus optatus* Cuckoos (link below)? When the article was written in
> 2007 Oriental Cuckoo had 2 races but in the current Birdlife and IOC lists
> they have been split into two species; Himalayan Cuckoo (*C.s. saturatus*)
> and Oriental Cuckoo (*C.s. optatus*).
>
> If the article is accurate it seems that in Aus we can no longer be 100 %
> sure which species we are looking at. C&B (2008) recognise the probability
> of both (races) being in Qld and both the IOC and Birdlife International
> lists have recognised a split so it could become an interesting discussion,
> especially for birds seen in the west of Aus.
>
> For my own list I am sticking with Oriental Cuckoo in Qld because it seems
> probable that 90% + of the birds will be of that species but how can I be
> sure, especially as the birds do not normally sing or call on the wintering
> grounds?
>
>
> http://www.orientalbirdclub.org/publications/forktail/23pdfs/Lindholm-Cuckoo.pdf
>
> cheers
>
> Jenny
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Tom Tarrant <> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick note to let you know that a least 2 Oriental Cuckoos were
>> still present at the water-board gate (chain?) on Rush Creek Rd near
>> Dayboro (SEQ) this morning, unfortunately light was poor so couldn't see
>> the second well enough to determine if it was an 'hepatic' bird. (Coords
>> -27.216291, 152.872612)
>>
>> Interesting to note that several other observers have observed these
>> elusive birds since my original observation last week, will be very useful
>> to report all further sightings.
>>
>> Tom
>> -27.216291, 152.872612
>>
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