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Impact of climate change on pelagic birding

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Subject: Impact of climate change on pelagic birding
From: John Leonard <>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:51:25 +1100
Martin

I don't think you can raise the question of scientific rigour and then
refer to the web-site you do.

John Leonard

On 31 January 2012 21:52, Martin Wigginton <>wrote:

>
> Yes, I agree with Laurie that we should welcome any study that seeks to
> obtain REAL data.  With such tiny differences in ocean temperatures, it
> might be difficult to detect impacts on bird distributions. Nevertheless,
> real data is the stuff that counts.
>
> But flawed studies such as Wenju Cai's ocean 'hot-spots' give the game
> away when they state:
>
> “Detecting these changes has been hindered by limited observations but
> with a combination of multi-national ocean watch systems and computer
> simulations we have been able to reconstruct an ocean history…”
>
> We should view with considerable scepticism studies such as these which
> rely so heavily on computer modelling to reach what is clearly a
> pre-determined conclusion.
>
> See also http://wattsupwiththat.com/**2012/01/30/oh-noes-wind-**
> driven-global-warming-hot-**spots/<http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/30/oh-noes-wind-driven-global-warming-hot-spots/>
>
> ------------
> Martin
> *All outgoing mails scanned by Norton Anti-Virus 2011
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Knight
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:58 AM
> To: Birding Aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Impact of climate change on pelagic birding
>
> There are some interesting articles reporting rapidly rising
> temperatures in key ocean currents - scientists compared "five ocean
> currents that run along the east coasts of Africa, Japan, the USA,
> Brazil and Australia" and "that over the past century the water in the
> currents has warmed two to three times faster than the rest of the
> world's oceans." <http://www.abc.net.au/**worldtoday/content/2012/**
> s3418386.htm <http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3418386.htm>
>
>>
>>
> These temperature changes will affect the distribution of marine life
> and I suspect are likely to impinge on the distributions of pelagic
> bird species.  It would be an interesting exercise to overlay species
> sightings with sea temperatures and to see how bird distributions
> change over time.
>
> Perhaps a thesis topic for someone ...
>
> Regards, Laurie.
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