And I warned about the closure of Leanyer Sewage Ponds some time before it
happened. Birding Aussers might remember my saying that management were so
worried about rogue birders such as those Chris mentions that they had
threatened to have anyone in the area without a permit arrested.
On taking other birders in: I'm just really careful about who I guide,
keeping away from gungho birders for a start.
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on 23/9/11 8:11 AM, Chris Sanderson at wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> You are spot on, but I think you are looking at this issue from the wrong
> side - part of the reason for refusal to renew permits was that NTP&W's
> concern that people were entering Leanyer without having done an induction,
> illegally. Some were sneaking in behind others with keys, others were
> getting in having borrowed a key. Essentially the kind of behaviour you are
> arguing birders should be able to continue almost spoiled it for everyone.
> For a while it looked like birders might not be allowed back in at all! So
> to be honest, if organising to do an induction is too much of a hassle for
> your holiday, then maybe choose another site to bird at.
>
> I briefly flagged these issues when the original closure happened back in
> October last year:
> http://bird-o.com/2010/10/02/living-leanyer-a-birding-jewel/
>
> No one has said key holders won't be able to take non-inductees with them at
> this stage, so perhaps that will still be allowed? Personally I'm glad that
> locals in NT have been able to work with NTP&W to arrange access again, it
> would have been sad if the closure had remained permanently.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Carl Clifford <>wrote:
>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> Well, that opens a can of worms. NTP&W making an OH&S induction course a
>> condition for a permit places any permit holder who allows a person who has
>> not completed the induction to accompany them to Leanyer in an invidious
>> position. NTP&W has shifted the public risk liability onto the permit holder
>> who allows any non-inducted person to accompany them. Permit holders who
>> give their key to anyone who has not been inducted, and allows that person
>> to go into Leanyer by themselves, may well find themselves even further in
>> the legal deep end.
>>
>> This policy may well result in hiring professional guides with public
>> liability insurance, the only way for visiting birders to visit Leanyer.
>>
>> Carl Clifford
>>
>>
>> On 22/09/2011, at 4:31 PM, Simon Mustoe wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Peter Kyne has requested that we kindly pass on information from NT Power
>> and Water, regarding access to Leanyer Sewage Farm. Note, the application
>> for a permit will only suit locals and the deadline is 30 September. Here is
>> his message:
>>
>> Dear NT Birders,
>> To assist Power and Water in arranging access to Leanyer Sewage
>> Ponds, they have asked to I co-ordinate a list of all of those people
>> interested in obtaining a permit to access the ponds. At this stage please
>> use me as a central contact point rather than individually contacting Power
>> and Water.
>> This is the first step for Power and Water to begin preparing indemnities
>> and keys, and in upgrading their database. Following this will be an
>> induction process,
>> with Power and Water looking at a group induction in the first
>> instance. Date and time to be advised in due course. So please, don¹t
>> apply if you are not able to make yourself available for this induction,
>> thanks ; )
>> If you wish to obtain a permit, please advise me of the following details
>> by 12 noon FRIDAY 30 September:
>> 1. First name and surname
>> 2. Email address
>> 3. Residential address
>> 4. Phone number (home/mobile)
>> 5. If you are a member of the NTFNC
>> Permits will be issued for a 3 year period with a $50 key deposit. Previous
>> key deposits will be honoured.
>> Many thanks, Pete Kyne
>>
>> Peter Kyne, PhD
>> Tropical Rivers and Coastal Knowledge
>> Charles Darwin University
>> Darwin 0909 NT, Australia
>> Ph: 08 8946 7616
>> Mob: 0435 139 322
>>
>> For more information on Leanyer and birding in the Top End,
>> http://bird-o.com/northern-**territory-and-the-top-end/<http://bird-o.com/nor
>> thern-territory-and-the-top-end/>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Simon.
>>
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