Clements too
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Nikolas Haass
Sydney, NSW
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From: John Leonard <>
To: Birding-aus <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:40 AM
Subject: Chathan Island Albatross off Australia
The IOC list does have the Chatham Albatross as a full species.
John Leonard
On 6 September 2011 08:56, Roger McGovern <> wrote:
> Thanks guys for reminding me of the fabulous year of 1999 when I was over
> working in Perth and missed about five lifers!
>
>
>
> Daniel raises an interesting point by mentioning BARC as it has long been a
> bugbear of mine that BARC and NSW ORAC do not have sub-species on their
> review lists. If a sub-species such as Chatham Island
>
> Albatross were one day raised to full species status, then previous records
> of sightings will not have been through the same rigorous review that other
> rare species routinely do. It seems to me that there is a case to be made
> for reviewing rare sub-species and it is something that I will raise at the
> next NSW ORAC meeting.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger McGovern
>
>
>
> From: Daniel Mantle
> Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 5:34 PM
> To: ;
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Chathan Island Albatross off Australia
>
>
>
> Thanks Roger,
>
> I can reply as I am still stuck at Melbourne Airport!! I am pretty sure
> there was also a Chatham Albatross off Wollongong in that mega-year (1999).
> I wish I had been living in Aus then! Your 2002 records confirm what some of
> the others thought - that the Gong had scored two eremita over the years. I
> still think Tas has had a few too, but wouldn't even know where to start
> looking for these records. There are some great seabird records on the
> various marine biology databases, especially from the research vessels
> leaving Tas for the Antarctic. But I guess many of these have not been
> submitted to BARC. At the time of the Great Shearwaters earlier this year (I
> think I forgot to post this), I could remember seeing a record of an earlier
> sighting of multiple Great Shearwaters off Tas (still in Aus waters) from a
> survey vessel. Maybe three birds if my memory is correct.
>
> Cheers Dan
>
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