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Duck Shooting

To: Chris Sanderson <>
Subject: Duck Shooting
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:19:20 +1000
And whilst it may indeed be "political" in that anything designed to
influence Government is in that category, it is not party political as both
Labor and the Coalition have been equally bad on this issue.

On 11 May 2011 10:16, Chris Sanderson <> wrote:

> Hi Warren,
>
> Could you elaborate a bit more about what exactly you have a problem with?
>  Is it the laying of dead birds at the premier's office?  I'm not sure this
> is a criticism based along political lines per se, but a criticism of this
> particular government for allowing duck shooting to proceed.  One of the
> tired old arguments in favour of duck shooting as I understand it is that
> "hunters are really good at identifying birds, so they won't kill anything
> they aren't allowed to".  The actions of Debbie and her friends are quite
> clearly aimed at dispelling this myth, by showing exactly how many
> illegally
> killed birds they are finding.  And if they are finding this many, how many
> more are being taken by foxes, dogs, eagles etc?  How many swans (for
> example) is it ok for hunters to "accidentally" shoot before the public
> should start asking pointed questions of the administration that allowed
> hunting to recommence?  What about the Freckled Duck from earlier on in the
> piece?  If the hunters are worried about being unfairly labeled because of
> a
> few rogue hunters in their midst, maybe they should be better at naming and
> shaming those responsible?  Maybe that would help people feel like it
> really
> is a rogue element responsible and not just the status quo.
>
> If I've misconstrued what you are worried about please let me know.  I
> don't
> think discussion about this is a bad thing, but at this stage I'm firmly in
> favour of making this a high profile issue in Victoria.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Warren Thompson <>
> wrote:
>
> > I am firmly against duck shooting for practical, not emotional reasons.
> >
> > Having said that, I question whether the recent postings including an
> > invitation to take part in certain activities are appropriate for
> > Birding-Aus postings. Is this the thin edge of the wedge with the site
> > being
> > hijacked for political purposes. Was this the purpose for which the site
> > was
> > established?
> >
> > Warren Thompson
> >
> > Levenstrath
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