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If you go down to the woods, you may be in for a big surprise, or at lea

To: "'Ian May'" <>, "'Carl Clifford'" <>
Subject: If you go down to the woods, you may be in for a big surprise, or at least in NSW
From: "Paul G Dodd" <>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:44:44 +1000
I think that the problem with modern democracy is not when the other side
wins - that's inevitable from time-to-time anyway. The problem is when
neither major party has a clear majority, and the balance of power is held
by minorities. Technically, with just one vote, the Shooters hold almost as
much power as either of the two major parties in NSW by virtue of their
casting vote.

I remember reading a article on this subject some years ago - for the life
of me, I can't remember the publication - but the gist of it was that small,
single policy or even extreme parties, could effectively wield power in a
modern government by NOT winning the election!

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria


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To: Carl Clifford
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Subject: If you go down to the woods, you may be in for a
big surprise, or at least in NSW

Is this the real price of Carbon?   It seems for some, democracy is hard to
digest when the other side wins.

Ian May

Carl Clifford wrote:
> 
> The recent NSW elections, has given the Shooters and Fishers Party the  
> casting vote in the NSW Upper House. See  
>
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/ofarrell-over-a-barrel-as-the-shooters-tak
e-aim-20110412-1dcpm.html 
> 
> This means that for the Government will need the support of the S&FP  to 
> have legislation passed, which might not be supported by the  
> Opposition. This will result in a good deal of quid pro quo. Among the  
> quid that the S&FP want are; I. no more National or Marine Parks, 2.  
> the right to shoot in 29 National Parks, including Barrington Tops and  
> Kosciusko NPs, and 3. private game reserves, which are hoped to be  
> stocked with exotic game species , such as various Antelope species.
> 
> The NSW Premier says he won't be doing deals with the minor parties.  
> That will make Legislating interesting.
> 
> Carl Clifford
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