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feral dogs and birding

To: Jill Dening <>
Subject: feral dogs and birding
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:16:49 +1100
Jill,

I heartily agree on the safety aspect. These devices are not toys and outside of dog training purposes, should only used when your safety is at risk. These devices also are not 100 % effective in all situations. Some dogs will keep coming, but even madder.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 24/01/2011, at 6:49 PM, Jill Dening wrote:

Hi All,

Before everyone runs out and buys a dog deterrent as Carl described, I would like to qualify his comments - hope you don't mind, Carl.

I have one such thing. It cost me about $40 through the net. It has a truly stunning effect upon dogs, so I urge anyone who gets one to use it only when absolutely necessary, and with careful thought.

I used it to train my dog when she disobeyed deliberately. She has
selective hearing. If I give an order and she disobeys it a couple of times, I give a VERY quick zap, and there is instant response (like,
"sorry Mum, I really didn't mean it"). Don't hold your finger on the
button for any length of time. This little gadget seems to inflict
audial pain on dogs, as it does when humans hear a sound which hurts
the ears.

But gee it works well, and would be a great safety gadget when out
birding in wild dog country. Or when taking a morning walk where dogs run loose.

Cheers,

Jill

Jill Dening
Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

26° 51' 41"S  152° 56' 00"E

On 24/01/2011 5:25 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
Donald,

Prior to retirement I was an Inspector for a State Department of
Agriculture. One of my duties was property inspection for plant pest and
disease. My District included Bourke, Brewarrina and Dubbo. I had
regular deep and meaningful discussions with dogs about my rights of entry.

Then my life changed for the better. I came across ultra-sonic "Dog
Stunners" They were a hand-held audio generator (about the size of a
block of butter) which generated sound in the principle band-width
of a
dog's hearing, at 120dB. It was very effective. Just had a quick
Google
and the same type of device, now called "dog deterrent" is widely
available for under AUD 50. These devices could be a useful addition to
a birders kit.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 24/01/2011, at 5:10 PM, Donald G. Kimball wrote:

Okay folks I wont go on and on about this one but being attacked while
birding is definitely an unnerving situation. I have dealt with
adult moose
and black bears while doing wildlife research on birds in Canada but so far only a nasty farm dog that got called off. By the way moose are much more
dangerous overall but fortunately I went unscathed with the moose
adventure.
Okay now to my point. I am not sure about Aussie law but in Canada
if I am
in heavy heavy bear country I prefer to use bear mace which is totally
legal
here. The kind that actually will turn grizzlies around like a
scalded hog.
One jolt of that and even the most determined pack of mutts will be rolling
and screaming in the dirt while others will be be yelping and
panicking to
leave the area. A bit pricey but great for peace of mind. Hopefully this
will be helpful to some of my great mates in Aus.
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