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NSW Ostriches

To: "'John Tongue'" <>
Subject: NSW Ostriches
From: "Wedderburn Birding" <>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:09:37 +1100
John,

Just for info, I saw a Common Myna at Devonport on 26th Dec 2006, when I was
travelling across to Tasmania by ferry. It was reported on Eremaea at the
time and is flagged as not being on the Tasmanian list. 

Regards,

Bruce

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From: 
 On Behalf Of John Tongue
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 9:17 AM
To: Laurie Knight
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: NSW Ostriches

G'day Laurie,
I've no doubt that's true, but regardless of how 'picky' BARC is, it is
still up to the individual birder as to whether or not to add a tick to
their own list.

Some years ago, a pair of Common Mynahs was shot (thankfully), nesting at
Mersey Bluff in Devonport.  By the way, I did not tick them because I did
not see them until they were mounted next to the fox in the Tasmanian
Museum.  Now, one would 'suspect' that these birds arrived, "ship-assisted"
by the Spirit of Tasmania Ferries - but DID they?  Could they have been
ticked by us if we'd seen them alive?  Subjective call!

We have personally ticked Olive-backed Oriole at Wynyard in Northwest
Tassie, even though it, too, would seem an unlikely candidate for unassisted
flight across Bass Straight .... but who knows.  Though it was a positive ID
(sufficient to satisfy ourselves), we did not submit a sighting to BARCa,
for two reasons: i) because it would not have fulfilled all their "picky"
criteria, and ii) BARC is concerned with assessing sightings of vagrants to
Australia, and is not interested in mainland species vagrant to Tasmania.  

BUT, we were satisfied with it as a tick for our Tasmanian list.

I suspect many sightings which have been submitted to - but not accepted by
- BARC are still ticked on the lists of the particular birders making the
submission.

The point of all this? .......

The final contents of an individual birders list is up to the judgement call
of the individual birder.  There isn't really anything "wrong" with this, as
long as everyone recognises it.  And in the end it doesn't matter,
......unless people are wanting to say that one person's list is better or
worse than another, AT WHICH POINT they they just need to be sure they are
following EXACTLY the same 'rules'.

Still happy to see whatever birds I can!  ;)

Cheers, and happy birding,
John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tas.


On 27/10/2010, at 10:14 PM, Laurie Knight wrote:

> I suspect that BARC are a bit picky about the birds they tick ;)
> 
> On 27/10/2010, at 11:09 PM, John Tongue wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris, et. al.
>> 
>> I suspect in the end, we all have to make our own decisions about what we
will and won't accept as a "tick".  It's all very subjective.
>> 
>> Chris write, "....vagrants are treated differently only if they got
themselves here."
>> 
>> Who's to say if they "got themselves here"?  Did the Sydney House Crow
get itself here?  Did the Burren Junction Grey-headed Lapwing get itself
here?
>> 
>> In the end, we each have to make a judgement call for ourselves, that we
are happy with ......for ourselves.
>> 
>> Cheers and happy birding,
>> John Tongue
>> Ulverstone, Tas.
>> 
>> 
>> On 27/10/2010, at 9:51 AM, Chris Sanderson wrote:
>> 
>>> vagrants are treated differently only if they got
>>> themselves here.
> 

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