This is not really a discussion for birding-aus. Again, I find myself boring
most people with the details. Sorry, this is my last word on this. However, it
may help people to see a sense of perspective on this issue which has nothing
to do with birding but is something controlled by large companies and
advertisers ...
The
jury is still out on this one a bit but the evidence is that there is
certainly some public dissatisfaction with pre-roll ads. However, perhaps
surprisingly, one
study of 2 million online video viewers found only 16% were put off. They noted
that "this spiked to 25%" when associated with
newspaper and magazine content. This demonstrates another fact -
pre-roll advertising affects people less, when the content is unique /
the resulting content is very interesting to them and cannot be found
elsewhere. Something like a nesting eagle live cam is going to put off less
people than average. Let's face it, the results speak for themselves. Literally
millions of people are watching such cameras every day.
In the first 24 hours we had this live feed going:
Number of viewer minutes = 1880 mins
Comprising: 82 unique viewers 148 total viewers
This
means that, viewers were on the site for an average of 9.5 mins and 55%
of people came back for a second look. So on the whole, most people weren't
put off by them, which is consistent with the research.
Although we can express personal dissatisfaction, it remains a fact that people
in general, don't mind and we have received nothing except positive response
outside birding-aus.
So let's not make mountains out of molehills. Let's not allow a minor concern
to detract from the amazing work that Geoff Hutchinson, John Irvine and the
guys at BASNA have done to get to this point so far. I think they should be
strongly commended and we should avoid anything that might undermine the value
of what is generally a very positive project - though there are undoubtedly
things that can be done to improve, as there would with anything.
Regards,
Simon.
> From:
> To: ; ;
> CC:
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Sea-eagle LIVE clarification re ads
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:20:44 +1000
>
> I decided to check what all the fuss was about, as I initially thought
> people were just been picky, but yes the advertisements are really intrusive
> and continuous and put me off from visiting the site again. I think most
> people understand the need for advertisements but you should be allowed to
> mute them. You should consider using another streaming service and I think
> most people won't be going back to the site in its current form.
>
>
> Regards, Simon Muirhead BEnvSc MEIANZ
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Simon Mustoe
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 11:41 AM
> To: ;
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Sea-eagle LIVE clarification re ads
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The ad still shows on that page - I think that UStream shows a preroll the
> first time you view.
>
> It's worth noting that this project has been very difficult to get to this
> stage. An immense amount of time and money has been spent, particularly by
> volunteers, John Irvine, Geoff Hutchinson and Judy Harrington. We pay for
> the upload bandwidth to get this onto the web and there is a constant
> investment of time and hardware by the volunteers to document activities,
> archive HD video and promote the system for conservation.
>
> It would only be possible to bring this amazing spectacle to you, with the
> help of the advertisers that support UStream. It's incredible that we can
> even do this now - when just a couple of years ago, we were talking about
> literally thousands of dollars a month to transmit this kind of content to
> the web.
>
> I think the guys at BASNA have done a great job. Well done! I know I will
> log in every day (as will my kids) and watch these chicks grow. This support
> for BASNA will help ensure the project's success year on year. As for the
> ads - when they are on TV, we just walk out and make a cuppa then come back
> when the action starts!
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
>
> CC: ;
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Sea-eagle feeding chick LIVE
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:28:02 +1000
>
> Bill et al,
> You can watch the WBSE cam , ad free, at
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sea-eagle-cam . There are several other live
> streams of bird subjects, including Molly the (Barn?) Owl sitting on eggs,
> which I am watching as I type. She is standing up now and having a good
> stretch and scratch and I can clearly see the eggs.
> Cheers,
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 04/08/2010, at 10:44 AM, Bill Stent wrote:
> Nice one Simon.
>
> I followed the link and got a loud commercial for some pain killer, which I
> was able neither to skip nor mute, which was embarrassing as the soundtrack
> is of a woman moaning, which didn't go down well here in my office
> environment. I closed the window after about 30 seconds or so, being unable
> to bear any more. I never got to the WBSE, which I assume would have
> started after the Neurofin commercial.
>
> I can probably tolerate banner ads in the corner of my screen, but this? No.
>
> Just no.
>
> Bill
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Simon Mustoe" <>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Sea-eagle feeding chick LIVE
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Go to http://www.bird-o.com right now .. the chick is being fed on a live
> feed.
>
> Simon.
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