Satin-Leaden Flycatchers again

To: "Allan Richardson" <>
Subject: Satin-Leaden Flycatchers again
From: Rod Gardner <>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:53:36 +1000
Hi Allan,

Thanks, Allan. It's good to hear from someone who has been trying to work 
out if you can split these two on calls. Your answer is pretty much what I 
suspected - that it's extremely difficult because of the variation in the 
calls of LF (I wouldn't know about SF). One question this raises, though, 
is whether the BOCA calls are reliable. As I said in my original posting, 
the call I heard at Anstead was almost identical to the first call for SF 
on the BOCA recordings. I don't doubt that that recording is of a SF, but 
does anyone know if LF might produce the same call?


"Allan Richardson" <>
<>, "Rod Gardner" <>
04/11/09 09:18 PM
Re: [Birding-Aus] Satin-Leaden Flycatchers again

Hi Rod

In recent years I've been pretty keen to test the calls of SF compared 
LF. And over the past few seasons have tracked down many a variation on 
LF call suspecting that a SF would show itself, only to find LF.  A week 
I was working on the Newnes Plateau in the western Blue Mountains and 
encountered LF regularly, most deviating from the calls that I am used to 
hearing on the Central Coast where I live. The last flycatcher call I 
encountered during the week sounded very much like a LF, but turned out to 

be a SF. I have heard SF in the past, which sounded different to LF calls, 

but I suspect, from my own experiences, that the variation of call within 
each species may make it hard to draw some general rules of thumb here.


Allan Richardson

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