I think the big test of feral chicken returning to the Red Junglefowl
state would be what the females look like. With Red Junglefowl I have
observed in Malaysia the males are very upright farmyard-looking
birds, but the females are much duller, smaller and more horizontal,
they almost look like partridges or quail. I suspect that in selecting
for domestic females that lay without fertilization, more
masculine-looking birds have been favoured.
John Leonard
2009/8/9 Jeff Davies <>:
> G'day Carl,
>
> Domestic fighting cocks and there are couple of breeds have ridiculously big
> legs and can't be confused with Red Jungle Fowl, they are not widely kept.
> There would be more domestic Bantams that look like Jungle Fowl in Australia
> than fighting cocks.
> I am interested to know location details about the sightings of Jungle Fowl
> you claim.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Carl Clifford
> Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2009 12:26 AM
> To: John Hammond
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Iluka NSW .... Feral Red junglefowl?
>
> Hi John
>
> I have sometimes wondered how many generations it would take a
> domestic chook to revert to a Jungle Fowl, be it Red or Green. Whilst
> birding in SE Asia, I have come across several birds which meet the
> criteria for a Jungle Fowl of both colours, but seeing as the
> sightings were fairly close to human habitation I have somewhat
> vacillated over whether to tick them or not. I have seen quite a few
> Fighting Cocks in SE Asian villages which meet most of the criteria
> for a Jungle Fowl, which has made me think am I seeing a Jungle Fowl
> or seeing a domesticated Fighting Cock.
>
> With the prevalence of Cock Fighting in Australia, it makes me wonder,
> are sightings of Jungle Fowl in Australia of a genuine breeding
> populations or escapees?
>
> I would be interested in opinions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 08/08/2009, at 7:11 PM, John Hammond wrote:
>
>
> Hello all.... I was just wondering if any one is aware of any feral
> junglefowl populations around iluka in nsw? I have been staying at
> Yamba for a couple of days and this morning after visiting the iluka
> rainforest drove down to the shark bay picnic ground. As I got out of
> the car I could hear a rooster calling somewhere in the scrub and
> given the distance from any houses and the dense habitat I was quite
> amazed to hear this. After a ten minute search I found myself peering
> through the scrub at one very shy red junglefowl. I don't know if
> people feed these chooks but the one I saw behaved very much like a
> wild bird. As for this wayward roosters genetics I can only say it
> looked nearly identical to the photos I manage to bring up on a google
> search of the species. I can only find reference to feral populations
> on heron and north west island. So my question to anyone in the know
> is could this bird be a legit feral tick? Or has somebodys prized red
> junglefowl gone for an awful long walk? If anything it will go down as
> the most spectacular rooster I've ever seen.....
>
> Johno
>
>
>
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