I'm not sure how flippant your comment is Andy. Each State has its own
environmental laws and its own threatened species, so as far as real
conservation outcomes are concerned, State lists are probably
(unfortunately) more important than bioregional ones. There is certainly a
move amongst these departments to work more closely together on conservation
but the fact is once you cross a political border there are different laws
and priorities, whereas biogeograpical borders don't really mean that much
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Andy Burton <> wrote:
> Creating a list, any list, is a a great reinforcer for the memory and
> therefore an educational tool. I have learnt vast amounts about birds by
> keeping lists in the form of a database.
> And yes I have State lists. I also have nearly 2600 catchment lists as well
> as rudimentary bioregion lists.
> And paradoxically I have little idea how many species I have for each
> list..........its probably not important but easy to find out if I wish to..
> I might flippantly add that presumably State authorities maintain lists,
> perhaps partly sourced from birdwatchers.
> Regards, Andy
> Being a geographer, I have an interest in regionalisations. As a
>> birdwatcher, I also have an interest in bird observations and records.
>> The question I have is why do birders bother creating State lists? States
>> are colonial anachronisms. Very few of their boundaries have any connection
>> to the affairs of birds.
>> Do birders create State lists because they are brought up in cultural
>> straight-jackets or because the boundaries are clearly marked? One of the
>> key problem for list aficionados is that there are only 8 States and
>> Territories to create lists for ...
>> Why don't birders create Bioregion lists? There are 85 recognised
>> bioregions in Australia, so there are potentially 10 times as many lists to
>> create. What is more, bioregionalisation has far more relevance for birding
>> observations than State boundaries. It doesn't matter much whether a
>> species breeds on one side of a border fence or the other. It does matter,
>> however, if that species ceases to breed in a particular bioregion.
>> It seems logical to me that we should connect our bird observations to the
>> environment in which we see them. I would be interested to hear from
>> birders who have created bioregional lists ...
>> Regards, Laurie.
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