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a tribute to noisy miners

To: "Paul Dodd" <>
Subject: a tribute to noisy miners
From: "Robyn Charlton" <>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:56:44 +1000
Hi all

I guess the comment 'aggressive' being judgmental depends on HOW it is said
and what context. Personally I see the dear Noisy Miner as proactive,
assertive, vigilante and town crier. I have even seen them as the observer.
Case in mind was two Pee -Wees scrapping with two Indian Mynors with an
audience of  a couple Noisy's and  a Magpie!! Quite amazing!

As I drove from the Uni to the hospital my Dad is in, I took the bypass.
Quite impressive. The sound Barriers are concrete with bird reliefs. And
part of me thought WOW makes the trip easier! The other part of me was
thinking how many species lost their homes and even their lives because of
its construction. I'm quite sure that some of Owl populations would have
been victims..... And why to make a trip easier.

If we take the shrubs away that Noisys like, who else are we victimizing. I
have seen Rosellas use the same shrubs as the Noisys and what of any other
organism, insects for example. Noisy Miners in my observation are quite
versatile  when comes to sourcing food.

Rob

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Dodd <> wrote:

> I'm not sure that the comment that Noisy Miners are aggressive towards
> other
> species is particularly judgemental. Rather it's a comment on the behaviour
> of these birds based on observation. Quite a number of species are
> incredibly territorial and will chase other birds away (whether they be the
> same or different species).
>
> Anyway, your comments on humans' behaviour is well noted!
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Melbourne
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>  On Behalf Of Robyn Charlton
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:19 AM
> To: birding-aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] a tribute to noisy miners
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I'm currently working on a bird sampling field report for Ecology (Uni).
> Anyway the comment has come up about Noisy miner aggression towards other
> birds. Is it not incredibly hypocritical of us, as a species to  pass
> judgment on any other species on this planet. Are we not the worst species
> be aggressive not only to our own but to others species.We plunder other
> species territories etc etc etc. I congratulate the noisy miner for it's
> protectiveness of it's  family, community and its resources. I admire its
> resourcefulness. How dare we judge this bird  when we have altered its
> habitat.
> They only reflect what Humanity as done already!!
>
> Rob
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