birding-aus

Re: Local extinction!

Subject: Re: Local extinction!
From: Peter Ewin <>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:23:39 +1000
I should have been away but have been at a workshop discussing climate changes 
and its potential impacts on biodiversity - scary stuff.

I have been tempted to respond in the past to the various discussions of 
birding databases and the various Atlas databases but have usually just 
remained an interested spectator. However, the discussion below by Martin 
raises some interesting points and so I thought I should contribute this time.

The main advantage I believe of contributing records to a state government 
database is that is the where decisions on conservation issues are usually 
being made.

As Martin says, NSW has the Atlas of NSW Wildlife (based pretty well on the 
Victorian model) and this has been going for nearly 20 years. This is the 
database I contribute my records to (mainly because I have been involved in the 
development and distribution of the database in the past). However, since I now 
live in Victoria (but work in NSW) I have got a Victorian Atlas book for the 
odd interesting record I make in Vic (yes Martin I will send them in 
eventually). I usually only contribute records of threatened species to the 
database, but I will also usually record a list of species seen in the same 
vicinity (including ferals) to get an idea of the common species (I am certain 
I have commented previously that unless you record common things you never have 
an idea of what is declining or incresing). Exceptions to this are if I am 
visiting a new reserve (or having an extended stay in a previously visited one) 
or doing sytematic survey as part of my work (then everything gets recorded). 
We try to get most surveys that DECC does incorporated this way, but it doesn't 
always work out that way (everyone thinks that their own database is the best 
for their owjn project). It also includes lots of published records, records 
from consultants (who should be supplying the data as part of their Scientific 
Licence) and from the public. It also has 'licensed' from other bodies 
(Australian Museum, CSIRO) though these are only made available to staff using 
the database (the web-based application does not include these records). There 
have been licences in the past with SA (to be updated soon) and I think some 
discussion has been had with Victoria so we have records in these states for 
areas adjoining NSW, and we have an agreement in the past with Birds Australia 
(though this has not been updated and is a major limitation in the dataset we 
have).
Going back to my original point, however, is that the Atlas is being used to 
drive decisions by DECC (and others) for biodiversity in NSW. Examples include:

It is the main dataset used by consultants during the development process. 
There is no legal requirement for them to consult any records, but the Atlas is 
the minimum that we would require. Many consult other places (Museum, BA, etc.) 
but this list is ever-grwoing and there is only so much time and money that 
consultants have to spend on searches.
For processes such as the determing the distribution of threatened species for 
native vegetation management (and biobanking) it is the main dataset (along 
with some specialists knowledge) utilised (including predicting areas of 
potential habitat).
Other decisions on targeted threatened species management (such as areas for 
fox control, reserve design, forestry harvesting) are also based on Atlas 
records.
The Atlas of NSW Wildlife is a crucial dataset that would mean that DECC would 
not be able to do many of its required functions if the dataset was not 
available. I understand that many of the other databases serve a function 
(personal lists, twitching locations, etc.) but I would encourage people in NSW 
(and Victoria) to contribute their records to the state database. The site 
listed below should have a link to a spreadsheet that allows submission of 
records electronically (the preferred format) but excel or database format data 
can be accepted as long as it has the essential information (what, where, when 
and who as a minimum). I know many people contribute to the BA Atlas and I hope 
our head office people are close to resolving the issue of data exchange so 
that double handling is not required, but if you submit data electronically (or 
have digital records for NSW) send the Wildlife Data Unit an e-mail and 
hopefully they can get your data into the Atlas.

Cheers,
Peter> To: > Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Re: Local extinction!> 
From: > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:02:28 +1000> CC: 
> > Hi Peter, good questions!> > This is my 
understanding of the various fauna databases available to > naturalists to 
submit their data. As far as I'm aware only certain > eastern Australian states 
have any form of fauna atlas. Victoria has had > its atlas (Atlas of Victorian 
Wildlife) for about 30 years now.> > As you can see there are a number of bird 
related databases but only a few > of these record all details associated with 
sightings of fauna and have > associated mapping systems and analysis tools so 
wildlife can be managed > by the relevant land manager agency.> > As a 
Victorian I send most of my observations to the Atlas of Victorian > Wildlife 
(AVW), but while travelling anywhere interstate I send data to > the Birds 
Australia Atlas. In addition there are sometimes specific > projects that use 
BA atlas forms (eg. the Victorian Lurg Woodland Bird > Survey) that I sue for 
those projects. My atlas for most sightings is the > AVW as one almost always 
sees other fauna when out birding (mammals, > frogs, reptiles, crays etc). I 
recommend the AVW for those who do most of > their birding in Victoria 
(especially if you record other fauna as well) > but understand some people are 
happy with using the Birds Australia > BirdData method of lodging their 
sightings directly.> > Link: Birds Australia BirdData - > 
http://www.birdsaustralia.com.au/our-projects/atlas-birdata.html> > It's worth 
being aware that Birds Australia has a data exchange agreement > with the Atlas 
of Victorian Wildlife which means that each database swaps > its avifauna 
information with the other. So reporting to the AVW means > your sightings 
eventually get into the BA database.> > I've generated the following 
information showing the current state > government fauna databases and, where 
these do not exist, the relevant > birding group sightings web pages.> > a. 
Australia> Birds Australia Atlas - Australia wide coverage, birds only> Link: 
http://www.birdsaustralia.com.au/resources/databases.html> > b. Queensland> 
Environment Protection Agency (Qld) - Coastal Bird Atlas, Queensland > coastal 
birds only> Link: > 
http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/wetlandinfo/site/MappingFandD/ContributeData/CoastalBirdAtlas.html>
 > c. New South Wales> NSW National Parks & Wildlife Department - NSW only, all 
fauna> Link: > 
http://wildlifeatlas.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/wildlifeatlas/watlas.jsp> > d. 
Victoria> Department of Sustainability & Environment - Victoria only, all 
fauna> Link: [in preparation] (email: > Note: 
currently available on CD-ROM and known as Victorian Fauna Display > (see: 
http://www.viridans.com/FISVFD/VFD1.HTM)> > e. ACT> Canberra Ornithologists 
Group - ACT only, birds only> Link: http://canberrabirds.org.au/Index.htm> > f. 
Tasmania (books only)> University of Tasmania, Fauna of Tasmania - various 
animal groups> Link: http://www.zoo.utas.edu.au/FOT2/BookletFOT.htm> > g. South 
Australia> Birds South Australia, SA only, birds only> Link: 
http://www.birdssa.asn.au/> > h. Western Australia> Birds Australia WA - WA 
only, birds only> Link: http://www.birdswa.com.au/sightings.htm> > i. Northern 
Territory> Birds Australia Atlas 2 - NT, birds only> Link: 
http://birds.rhyme.com.au/> > Hope this helps ... and of course interested to 
hear what I may have > missed !> > cheers, Martin> > Martin O'Brien> Wildlife 
Biologist - Threatened Species & Communities Section> Department of 
Sustainability and Environment> 2/8 Nicholson St.,> East Melbourne 3002> 
VICTORIA> > > > > > > > Notice:> This email and any attachments may contain 
information that is personal, > confidential, legally privileged and/or 
copyright.No part of it should be reproduced, > adapted or communicated without 
the prior written consent of the copyright owner. > > It is the responsibility 
of the recipient to check for and remove viruses.> If you have received this 
email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete > it from your 
system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or 
rely on the information > contained in this email.> > Please consider the 
environment before printing this email.> ===============================> 
www.birding-aus.org> birding-aus.blogspot.com> > To unsubscribe from this 
mailing list, > send the message:> unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, 
with no Subject line)> to: > 
===============================
_________________________________________________________________
Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail archive with Email 
Australia.
http://emailaustralia.ninemsn.com.au==============================www.birding-aus.org
birding-aus.blogspot.com

To unsubscribe from this mailing list,
send the message:
unsubscribe
(in the body of the message, with no Subject line)
to: 
=============================
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
Admin

The University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering takes no responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the birding-aus mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the archive e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU