RE: armchair ticks from the new C&

To: "Bill Jolly" <>
Subject: RE: armchair ticks from the new C&
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:08:28 +1100
Interesting that some of these are accepted by IOC and others are not....

Both grasswrens
Western Wattlebird
Kimberley H/E
Pacific Robin
Buff-sided Robin
Goulds/Little Bonze lump
Black-backed/white wagtail lunp
Australian Swiftlet
Aus Painted Snipe
Brown Skua
Eastern Koel (they have it as Pacific Koel)
Christmas Island Hawk Owl (they have it as Christmas Boobook)
Grass Owl
Arafura F/T
Eastern Yellow W/T

Not accepted
Snares/Fjordland lump
Sooty Owl lump
Australian Little Bittern
Eastern Great Egret
Eastern Osprey
Pale-vented Bush-hen
Barn Owl
Green-headed Yellow W/T

One wonders if/when IOC (which is what Birdstack uses! will accept these

On 24/01/2008, Bill Jolly <> wrote:
> On the topic of armchair ticks from the new C&B, this summary of some
> splits and lumps therein might assist some armchair tickers, and disappoint
> others.
> It's just my own perceptions from my first read-through, and I won't claim
> it's comprehensive. The new publication is an excellently detailed and
> referenced tome that contains argument at many levels, much of which I
> haven't plumbed yet!.
> I won't delve into other changes to nomenclature here, scientific or
> English – it's all in the book.
> 1 - Six additional species from splits, mostly domestic
> Kalkadoon Grasswren split from Dusky Grasswren
> Short-tailed Grasswren split from Striated Grasswren
> Western Wattlebird split from Little Wattlebird

Kimberley Honeyeater split from White-lined Honeyeater
> Pacific Robin (on Norfolk Island) split from Scarlet Robin
> Buff-sided Robin split from White-browed Robin
> 2  - Four lumpings, mostly domestic
> Snares Penguin lumped with Fjordland Penguin
> Gould's Bronze-cuckoo lumped with Little Bronze-cuckoo
> Lesser Sooty Owl lumped with Sooty Owl
> Black-backed Wagtail lumped with White Wagtail
> 3 – Seventeen Australian species split from overseas species  (Plenty of
> armchair ticks here for those who also bird overseas).
> Australian Swiftlet (Aerodramus terraereginae) split from White-rumped
> Swiftlet (A. spodyopygius) of Melanesia and Polynesia.
> Australian Little Bittern (Ixobrychus dubius) split from I. minutus of
> Africa and the Palearctic.
> Eastern Great Egret (Ardea modesta) split from A. alba of the new world,
> Eurasia and Africa.
> Eastern Osprey (Pandion cristatus) split from P. haliaetus of much of the
> rest of the world.
> Pale-vented Bush-hen (Amaurornis moluccana) split from A. olivacea of The
> Philippines.
> Australian Painted Snipe (Rostratula australis) split from R. benghalensis
> of Africa and Asia.
> Brown Skua (Stercorarius antarcticus) split from Great Skua formerly
> Catharacta skua.
> Eastern Koel (Eudynamis orientalis) split from Asian Koel (E.
> scolopaceus), which remains on the list from Christmas Island.
> Christmas Island Hawk-Owl (Ninox natalis) split from Moluccan Hawk-Owl (N.
> squamipila)
> Eastern Barn Owl (Tyto javanica) split from T. alba
> Eastern Grass Owl (Tyto longimembris) split from T. capensis
> Australian Logrunner (Orthonyx temminckii) split from New Guinean
> Logrunner O.novaeguineae.
> Rufous Fantail (Rhipidura rufifrons) split from Arafura Fantail (R. dryas)
> which remains on the list from northern Australia.
> Grey Fantail (R. albiscapa) split from New Zealand Fantail (R.
> fuliginosa).
> Australasian Pipit (Anthus novaeseelandiae) split from Richard's Pipit of
> Eurasia and Africa .
> Eastern Yellow Wagtail (Motacilla tschutschensis) and -Green-headed Yellow
> Wagtail (M. taivana) split from Yellow Wagtail (M. flava).
> Please let me know of any I've missed....
> Bill Jolly
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