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Helmeted Guineafowl

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Subject: Helmeted Guineafowl
From: Barry Davies <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:12:09 +1000
There is a flock of them at the Black Bull Siding on the Gulflander train line between Croydon and Normanton in Nth Qld. The locals assure me they are wild and have been for a long time.
Barry Davies
Gondwana Guides,
Beechmont, Qld

Peter Kyne wrote:
Refer to:

Wieneke, J. and James, D.J. 2006. Populations of Indian Peafowl Pavo
cristatus and Helmeted Guineafowl Numida meleagris in North-Eastern
Queensland. Sunbird 36(1):15-19.

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[m("vicnet.net.au","birding-aus-bounces");">] On Behalf Of Dave Torr
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Stephen Ambrose
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Subject: Helmeted Guineafowl

Do they specify where exactly? (still waiting for mine!) Obviously (if
you
are inclined) you can "tick" one from one of those areas but not (if you
are
honourable!) one from elsewhere - the key is obviously to go back to the
spot you saw them 10 years (or whatever the magic period is) later and
see
if they are still there :-)

On 22/01/2008, Stephen Ambrose m("pacific.net.au","sambrose");"><> wrote:
  
Steve,

My copy of Christidis & Boles (2008) arrived in the mail yesterday.
    
The
  
Helmeted Guineafowl is included in their main list, based on evidence
    
that
  
this species has persisted and bred at several locations in northern
    
Qld.
  
Stephen

Dr Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW

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[m("vicnet.net.au","birding-aus-bounces");">] On Behalf Of Steve Ransom
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Subject: FW: [Birding-Aus] Helmeted Guineafowl

Thanks everyone for the comments. What I really need to know is, if it
is a wild population, can I put it on my list?
My Simpson and Day Field Guide (2004) says that the Helmeted
    
Guineafowl
  
is not yet included on "The Official Australian List". My Morcombe's
says something similar.
Does anyone know what "Official Australian List" are they referring
    
to?
  
________________________________

From: Dave Torr [m("gmail.com","davidtorr");">]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:54 PM
To: Steve Ransom
Cc: m("vicnet.net.au","birding-aus");">
Subject: Helmeted Guineafowl


I think the "rules" are that they have to have formed a
    
self-sustaining
  
population in the wild for some minimum number of years. Thus some
populations may be "tickable" and others are not, which makes it
    
rather
  
hard!


On 22/01/2008, Steve Ransom m("tpi.net.au","Steve.Ransom");"><> wrote:

        I saw a group (3-4) of Helmeted Guineafowl over the Christmas
break,
        feeding on the side of the (South Western) highway just north
    
of
  
        Manjimup WA (close to Augusta).

        Does anyone know the status of this bird in Australia? Can I
    
put
  
it on
        my list?

        Steve Ransom
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        birding-aus.blogspot.com

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