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From: John Moverley <>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:21:49 +1000

I have been birding for over 30 years and lived in Brisbane 20 years ago. I can 
still go back to Brisbane and find many of the same species in popular spots 
such as Mt Glorious National Park. Others such as at the mouth of the river at 
Lytton are still worth a look but no where near as good and, because of the 
port traffic, no-where near as peaceful. While the good spots around the farm 
that I grew up on at Albany Creek, which when I was a child had a two teacher 
school and now has three schools, are totally under houses.

So the trick to writing a good long lasting guide book is to select sites that 
will remain for a long time, such as National Parks & state forests.

One interesting fact in the "non-changing" of birds is that last year I saw my 
first Lesser Crested Tern in 27 years. It was sitting on the same rock as the 
last one I saw.

John Moverley

> The problem with many such books is that they quickly become out of
> date - with the ever increasing spread of suburbia and the movement
> of birds through climate change etc I wonder how valuable they are
> after a few years? Would be interested in other birders views on
> this subject - I certainly had one "Where to find birds" book (not
> this one) that I tried to use a few years after publication and 50%
> of the sites I checked were now housing developments.
> I think Lloyd Nielsen has a more modern version, although how good
> it is I can't say as I don't have the book
> On 02/04/07, Graham Turner <> wrote:

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