Phone towers & bird calls

Subject: Phone towers & bird calls
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:44:22 +1100
Maybe - Terry's original quote specified cell phone towers - the document I referenced said communication towers - so take your pick! I would guess that there are a lot more cell phone towers than other types though!

Anyway my point was really that - although the number looks large - it is relatively minor compared to all the other problems!

On 23/01/07, Andrew Taylor <> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:37:30PM +1100, Dave Torr wrote:
> Whilst the figure for cell phone tower deaths of 4-50 million (a huge
> range!) in the US is alarming,

This sound like an estimate for bird deaths from *communications*
towers in the USA.  These can be very tall structures, 100+m high,
often for transmitting radio and/or TV.  See
for a pile of info about the circumstances thought to cause deaths.

Mobile phone base stations, at least around here, are not tall structures.
They seem mostly placed on existing building and stand less than 5 metres
above it.  There are often taller nearby structures and the mobile phone
base stations don't look to add much to the collision risk at least in
the cluttered urban environment.  You do see smaller towers (10-20?m
high) purpose built for mobile phone base stations and what look like
base stations located part way up radio/TV towers.

Radio/TV transmitters are much less numerous - they cover a larger area
- but are much more imposing structure.  A 20-100+m high tower built on
the highest terrain available - so the top can be several hundred metres
above nearby terrain.  I do a bit of mountain running south of Sydney
and there are radio/tv transmitters on a number of high points (Broker's
Nose, Mount Kembla, Knights Hill, ...).  A migrating bird following the
eastern edge of the dividing range would pass close to these -
but I don't know if any bird do navigate this way.


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