Bird call CD cost

To: "Tony Russell" <>
Subject: Bird call CD cost
From: Ricki Coughlan <>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:41:29 +1100
Oh Oh Tony now you've done it . . .

But I'm going to say it loud and proud too. I believe that it's far more preferable to use a little birdcraft and patience and the bird will come or not and hey' that's birding and that's one of the great things about it.

I know that when you're guiding a tour and somebody wants to see a bird which is very shy or elusive that a recorded call can save the day, your reputation and your business. However, I've never needed to use them and many people whom I've taken on tours have thanked me for not using them, stating that they don't believe in the use of recorded calls. They also respect that you can track the bird down for them by knowing its locality, habits, appearance and call. Seems a better way to go to me.

I've also had it anecdotally that the scrub-birds in one area of south-east Queensland don't call anymore due to the huge amount of playback which has been employed by birders who wanted to see the birds at all costs. I don't know if this is true or not and I'm not sure that a bird would abandon something as fundamental to its nature as calling, but if there is any truth to this, then it may be a huge conservation issue.

Happy birding
Ricki Coughlan

On 13/01/2007, at 11:22 AM, Tony Russell wrote:

It's the price of the iPod that amuses me. I much prefer to rely on my
own memory when it comes to identifying bird calls and don't use tapes
to call up birds, seems like cheating to me.



Roger, again :-)

I use a $650.00 iPod and an $18.00 Dick Smith speaker that works
perfectly and allows me to find a call in about a 100th of the time
it used to with tapes.

The price disparity often amuses me in the field.



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On 13/01/2007, at 10:44 AM, Roger Giller wrote:

Hi All,

The current thread on portable players for bird calls got me thinking
about sourcing the calls. There are several sources but most are by
no means comprehensive, e.g. the ABC collection. It appears the best
would be the BOCA set but it seems very expensive.

My question is why does it cost $200 for a set of bird calls on CD
when we can buy  field guide to the same birds, complete with
illustrations and notes, for far less. I picked up the latest Simpson
and Day for $29:95 last week.


Roger Giller

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