I replied to Tim directly yesterday saying a White-winged Triller (Juvenile
which may or may not be correct). This was based purely on the shape and
colouration of the bird, which I have seen and banded (had in the hand)
regularly.
Two points:
the white rump is the clincher - HANZAB describes the male rump as light
grey with cream to off-white fringes (which I reckon can appear white in the
field).
the pink bill could be a factor of the light in the phoyograph, though
HANZAB also describes the bill of juvenile as dark grey on upper mandible
and tip of lower mandible with pink tomia (cutting edges) and rest of lower
mandible and gape.
I can't account for the size difference (a Triller is significantly smaller
than a Noisy Miner) but I still stick to my guess.
Cheers,
Peter
From: "Tim Murphy" <>
To: <>
CC: "'birdingaus (E-mail)'" <>
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] New Quiz Bird on BQ Web Site
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:57:23 +1000
Don't take my size comparison as accurate, but it is the best I could do.
The bird was a bit slimmer than a Miner certainly. but the length was Miner
length I think. (I will ask the other birder).
I am puzzled that everyone ignores the clearly pink bill - would not that
be
significant?
BTW. I thought I knew that the bird was - I am, by now, as confused as
everyone. There were three of us, but one was a birder with L plates.
I agree that it must make us wonder about our own birding skills. But then
we spent 15 minutes standing next to the bird in the field, which hardly
moved, discussing it. I tried even to turn it into a Bar-breasted
Honeyeater
with no success.
Tim Murphy
.
-----Original Message-----
From:
Behalf Of Mike Simpson
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2006 3:42 PM
To: 'David Stowe'; 'Greg'
Cc: 'birdingaus (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] New Quiz Bird on BQ Web Site
I also thought it was a White-winged Triller after comparing with a photo I
took recently, see
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ozbirds/whitewingedtriller.html which was an
adult female, in the company of a male.
However the size would be wrong, Pizzey gives Triller as 16-18 cm whereas
Noisy Miner is 24-27 cm at least half as large again.
What I feel these comparisons really indicate is the disparity between
various birders over pretty clear pictures. One wonders about the accuracy
of reports in the various Twichathons where the bird may be spotted for
seconds from a moving car when no consensus can be obtained from
minutes/hours of pouring over an immobile photo? Maybe I am becoming
cynical
in my old age :-)
Regards, Mike Simpson
Penrith, NSW, Australia
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