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NSW Western Woodlands need your help NOW

To: Bill Stent <>
Subject: NSW Western Woodlands need your help NOW
From: Kiran Krishna <>
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:13:45 +1000 (EST)
Well, the environment exists for man rather than the other way round.

Kiran

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Bill Stent wrote:

> Kiran
> 
> What is moral about subsidising the private sector's mining of the
> environment?  By handing out grants to farmers who are affected by drought
> that's what we'd be doing.
> 
> I'm not advocating "appropriating" anything.  It would be land purchasing.
> Money goes one way, title goes the other.  
> 
> It would seem to me that one of the government's primary purposees is to
> curb the excesses of the monetary-profit maximising private sector in order
> to protect the wider and intertemporal interests.  
> 
> But I think we've had this discussion before.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kiran Krishna 
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 8:10 AM
> To: Bill Stent
> Cc: 'REID Colin'; 'Peter Waanders'; Terry Pacey (E-mail); Birding Aus
> Subject: RE: [BIRDING-AUS] NSW Western Woodlands need your help NOW
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Well, primarily because a contract ought not, on behalf of the public, to
> take advantage of the dire needs of a proprietor, in order to appropriate
> his property. An individual is free to be immoral, but the government
> ought not to be. 
> 
> Kiran
> 
> 
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Bill Stent wrote:
> 
> > Me too.
> > 
> > Typical economist's suggestion - why doesn't the government take equity -
> > partial ownership of farming land - in return for their drought relief
> > handouts?  This goes for all other bailouts to the private sector as well
> of
> > course.  Marginal farming land gained in this way could either be returned
> > to productive use in better years or (better) retired, rehabilitated
> (maybe
> > as part of the infamous work for the dole system) and covenanted.  
> > 
> > That way taxpayers (which includes the farmers themselves - those of them
> > who pay tax) get some sort of eventual bang for their buck.  
> > 
> > Or is that using the "N" word - nationalisation?
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: REID Colin 
> > Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 7:52 AM
> > To: 'Peter Waanders'; Birding Aus
> > Subject: RE: [BIRDING-AUS] NSW Western Woodlands need your help NOW
> > 
> > 
> > I'm with you, Peter, you're not alone! 
> > 
> > > Colin Reid
> >     Brisbane
> >     Email: 
> >     
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Waanders 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 7:59 PM
> > To: Birding Aus
> > Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] NSW Western Woodlands need your help NOW
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> 
> Kiran Krishna
> 3rd yr physics
> (Falkiner High Energy Physics)
> University of Sydney
> NSW 2006
> 
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> sponge. First the criminal who slays then the sophist who defends the 
> slayer. 
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Kiran Krishna
3rd yr physics
(Falkiner High Energy Physics)
University of Sydney
NSW 2006

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The strong man with the dagger is followed by the weaker man with the 
sponge. First the criminal who slays then the sophist who defends the 
slayer. 
    -Lord Acton 

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~kiran
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