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Rabbit Proof Fence

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Subject: Rabbit Proof Fence
From: "Philip A. Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:28:30 +1000
Well I was going by my own extensive experience of both (including in the NT). The Black Kite has a far more hoarse (and horse-like) call. By all means question my suggestion but have a look at the film first. A clue is that you never actually see the bird calling. It is filmed flying and surely the sound is dubbed on, there is nothing to suggest that vision and sound occurred simultaneously. I also go by my experience of tour guides (not birders) referring to both species as "kite hawks" and not appreciating that there is any difference between the two species.
 
Philip
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From: Andrew Taylor <>
To: <>
Date: Saturday, 23 March 2002 14:22
Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Rabbit Proof Fence

On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Philip A. Veerman wrote:
> Indeed what definitely was a Black Kite always was accompanied by the =
> call of a Whistling Kite

Are you sure?  I've heard Black Kites in the NT make calls that sound very
similar to the characteristic territorial(?) call of Whistling Kites.

rlack Kites seem to give a softer, more slurred version of the call, but I
suspect Whistling Kites do this sometimes too.

HANZAB quotes  Debus as saying: "more tremulous quality, not descending
so vigorously and staccato notes not ascending so vigorously as in
Whistling Kite.  The sonagrams in HANZAB (Black Kite C And Whistling Kite
A) have strong similarities.  Surprising given they are from different
genera.

Andrew  Taylor

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