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Re: Re: SIPO sighting at Ballina, Jan 2002

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Subject: Re: Re: SIPO sighting at Ballina, Jan 2002
From: "Marilyn Davis" <>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:42:07 +0800

Hello Robert and others

Thank you for your invitation to comment re: the suggestion to band the SIPO. I am taking your message at face value and hope that this is not just a "come in spinner" question.

After reading your message, I tried to imagine a bright orange or purple SIPO. It would be easy to identify, for sure. Alright, I must admit that it would be interesting to see an accurate description of the SIPO written up in a revised field guide after you lot had finished with it. Seriously though, I can't claim to speak on behalf of other anti banders. These comments are my own from the point of view of a concerned bird watcher who wishes only to protect birds.

I think it is reasonable to say that compared to the peril faced by small migratory waders when being handled and fitted with multiple leg flags, a large bird such as an Oystercatcher fitted with only one plastic leg band would have a much greater chance of survival. Assuming that is, that the Oystercatcher was not killed or injured during the catching process.

Before anyone goes banding the SIPO, surely you would try a series of coordinated field counts covering all its known locations in an attempt to locate them. Your proposal to photograph individuals for id is a good idea although i concede that molt variations would be difficult to deal with.

During June 2000, we spent several days at Lauderdale Tasmania. There were hundreds, perhaps thousands of Pied oystercatchers feeding on exposed tidal flats on the eastern margin of Ralph's Bay and also at other suitable areas south to Opossum Bay. I never knew there were so many Pied Oystercatchers. I kept quiet at the time because i was worried there would be a high tide roost nearby where the cannon netters would have a go at them.

Among the many birds were some short legged, short billed Pied Oystercatchers and i wondered about SIPO's. It was too early for juveniles but it was very wet and windy most of the time and i never had a really satisfactory look. I wondered what an observer with a scope might find, after all it is relatively closer to NZ. Have you looked around Tasmania for them?

Forgive me for being controversial but i have to say this. Its probable that some might support an idea to mark a "hard to identify" vagrant bird only to enable its easy identification so they can twitch it. If your reasoning is to observe range expansion, why don't you go band Sarus Cranes and Cattle Egrets or perhaps Common Mynahs first. Perhaps before you mark the SIPO we should all agree that "In regards to counting any bird in the total of a life list, it is unethical to record (twitch)a banded, flagged or colour marked bird". This should be a golden rule for twitching anyway. If this rule was introduced, we would soon see how much "genuine" support there is for marking the SIPO.

In regards to the birds movements, would it not be more surprising if the SIPO "does not" move up and down the coast? Surely the best way to protect this bird is to train more observers to identify it and then watch the expansion of its range from sight records.

It bothers me that the finders and watchers of a vagrant bird can claim some sort of ownership that leads to a right to decide on actions that might endanger it's welfare. We have a responsibility to help protect the SIPO not kill it.

Cheers

Marilyn Davis

Katherine  NT



From: "Robert Inglis" <>
To: <>
Subject: [BIRDING-AUS] Re: Re: SIPO sighting at Ballina, Jan 2002
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:34:01 -0800

Hello all,
In the context of a genuine interest in gaining more knowledge of one of the
most recent additions to the list of birds for Australia I wrote:
"It seems to me that an attempt should be made to mark or label SIPOs seen in
Australia to help solve this mystery by making it easier to track the
movements of this new-to-Australia (?) bird."


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