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Re:Laughing Turtle-dove size

To: Lawrie Conole <>
Subject: Re:Laughing Turtle-dove size
From: Syd Curtis <>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:23:43 +0800
on 20/8/01 7:16 PM, Lawrie Conole at  wrote:

> 
> Last year in Kyrgyzstan I found the Laughing Turtle-Dove to be a common
> urban bird in the capital city of Bishkek.  And I felt no guilt in admiring
> them as they're indigenous there ;-)  Are the ones in WA from one of the
> really tiny ssp?  I couldn't believe how small the Kyrgyz ones were - not
> much bigger than Peaceful Dove.  Quite a contrast with the overfed
> blimp-like Spotted TDs from around here.
> 
> L.
> 

My impression of the Rottnest Laughing Turtle-doves was that they were
appreciably smaller than the Spotted, and I had mentally equated them with
Peaceful Dove size, but it appears I am wrong:

"Birds of Rottnest Island" by Denis Suanders and Perry de Rebeira give:

    Laughing Turtle-dove    24-27 cm
    Spotted Turtle-dove     28-32 cm

And the Readers Digest Book of Australian Birds:

    Laughing Turtle-dove    25-27 cm
    Spotted Turtle-dove     27-28 cm
    Peaceful Dove           19-21 cm

I guess that if the L T-d that kept wandering into our unit on Rottnest and
doing an amusing impression of skating on the highly polished floor was only
24 cm and the S T-ds I saw were close to 32 cm, it would have given me the
impression of an appreciable size difference.

Anyone know the origin of the name "Turtle-dove"?

Syd Curtis

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